moondog

I've experienced liquid checks on CX, JL, NH, and OZ as well. I've never flown a PRC airline to the US, so I can't comment there.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

And an Australian rule. Unless you are at an airport that can deliver duty free at the gate (SIN and now BKK), any liquids in excess of 100ml even in a tamper proof bag will be confiscated at a gate check.

cxfan1960

US rule doesn't apply for PEK-HKG flights. So technically they can still sell alcohol and had a secondary check like HKG for US flights or when boarding US carriers. To adhere to US rules, they should not even sell any bottled liquid over a certain size after security. I doubt that is just because of US rule.

moondog

The restrictions only apply to US (and, apparently Australia) bound flights. It's cool to bring liquids to most other countries.

anacapamalibu

Alcohol on Civilian Aircraft in China

China Northern Airlines Flight 6136
started the policy

Technically 100 proof or 50% alcohol liquids are considered "flammable".


According to the Specifications for Air Transport of Dangerous Goods Carried by Passengers or Crew, passengers are not allowed to taken alcoholic beverage in their carry-on luggage. Alcoholic beverage can only be consigned in checked luggage, but the quantity shall meet the following requirements:
1. The quantity of the beverage whose alcohol content is lower than 24% is not restricted;
2. Each passenger is allowed to take up to 5L alcoholic beverage and the alcohol content should be lower than 70%.
3. The beverage that has alcohol content higher than 70% is prohibited.*

* a fully aged baijiu clocks in at about 70 percent alcohol.....

moondog

That's not the issue at hand, anacapa; anything you can buy airside is fair game to bring on the plane...unless your particular flight has a liquids ban in place.

Eta: I just realized that this thread is now 21 posts in, and nobody has questioned the wisdom of buying booze from Sunrise yet.

LHR/MEL/Europe FF

Inbound I've always found it good quality and cheap. Is there something I'm supposed to know?

qpr

It´s fine to bring liquids to the EU as long as you´re not in transit in the EU.

Darth Chocolate

Nope. I asked about this. Seems to be a TSA regulation that since many US flights from China connect to different US destinations, and you are not supposed to repack (i.e., put anything into your checked luggage in the Luggage Claim area), they simply ban all liquids purchased at the airport from getting into the cabin.

To compound matters, once I arrived in DTW from PEK and attempted to purchase some liquor at the Duty Free. They would not sell it to me, even though I had proof I had just arrived from overseas.

I had no problem purchasing in DTW for a flight to PEK, and no problem with Chinese customs.

anacapamalibu

Don't know if alcohol is included in the term" liquids" and
what the rules are ...arriving w/o a connecting flight.

Inbound International Flights

You may carry duty free liquids in secure, tamper–evident bags, more than 3.4 oz or 100 ml in your carry-on bag if:

The duty free liquids were purchased internationally and you are traveling to the United States with a connecting flight.
The liquids are packed in a transparent, secure, tamper-evident bag by the retailer and do not show signs of tampering when presented to TSA for screening.
The original receipt for the liquids is present and the purchase was made within 48 hours.
Liquids more than 3.4 oz or 100 ml not in a secure, tamper-evident bag must be packed in checked baggage.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

anacapamalibu

Never seen any reports Sunrise is/was selling counterfeit liquor, but have had
Chinese tell me don't buy liquor on arrival at PEK as its fake. They want US
bought.

moondog

Preempting THIS is why it makes logical sense for airlines to spend $500/flight (when secondary screening resources are available) in order to eliminate the liquid variable.

milepig

This is not true for many countries. I've bought Duty Free alcohol all over the world when US bound and walked out of the shop with it. Yes, there have been some where it was delivered to the plane, but that was the minority of cases for me.

I was also very surprised to be refused purchase in PEK and was told that is was limited to United (or maybe all US carriers, the language barrier was large) and that if I was on Air China it would be fine. They even had a supply of the tamper-proof bags behind the counter.

I think we're back to the "why" part of the question, is there some actual China regulation about this? I know it isn't an issue with US or airline regulations, since it works successfully when arriving from all over the world.

moondog

It is not limited to United or other US based airlines, and is not applied to all flights. Lining up secondary security (necessary to close the loop) requires a bit of planning/coordination.

YVR Cockroach

One of the requirements was delivering the duty free goods to the boarding gates for pick up, and didn't seem to affect U.S. airlines only. Some airports, such as HKG didn't (and still don't) have this back in 2007/8. FWIW, it also resulted in duty free not being available on QF flights to Australia (presumably Australian rules) and CX flights that first flew to YVR before continuing on to JFK.