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Old May 4, 2012 | 1:40 am
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
Is there air-side transit now without having to go through customs and back through immigration again in Shanghai PVG?

I had always stopped in Shanghai itself and never paid attention to transit.

Thinking of doing a SIN-ICN-PVG-ICN-SEA routing with a 1.5 hour transit at PVG.
Do-able?

Visa wouldnt be an issue and I would just have a carry-on rollerboard and no check-in bags.

Thanks!
There is airside transit at PVG now, but nobody here has tried it out yet (or if they have, they haven't told us).

I'm also assuming you made a typo because ICN-PVG-ICN is not a transit.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 1:55 am
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Ah thank u!

The thing is I am planning a r/t PVG-SIN-PVG(via ICN).
Upon return to PVG, i'm going to get on the 2nd part of my PVG-ICN-SEA.
So, PVG becomes a transit point, kind of.

I have to get my boarding pass and check-in for PVG-ICN-SEA but maybe i can do that at ICN first, before leaving for PVG.

Hope that works, otherwise, i'll have a super tight connection.


Originally Posted by moondog
There is airside transit at PVG now, but nobody here has tried it out yet (or if they have, they haven't told us).

I'm also assuming you made a typo because ICN-PVG-ICN is not a transit.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 3:26 am
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
Ah thank u!

The thing is I am planning a r/t PVG-SIN-PVG(via ICN).
Upon return to PVG, i'm going to get on the 2nd part of my PVG-ICN-SEA.
So, PVG becomes a transit point, kind of.

I have to get my boarding pass and check-in for PVG-ICN-SEA but maybe i can do that at ICN first, before leaving for PVG.

Hope that works, otherwise, i'll have a super tight connection.
Not in the eyes of the people who matter (PRC Border Control and your airline's front line people). In order to qualify as a transit passenger, you need to be flying directly in and out of different countries. And, given the tightness of your connection, I would advise you against pulling the refundable ticket trick.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 3:40 am
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hmm ok, might have to stay another night in PVG then or find a different flight.

Thanks!
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Old May 4, 2012 | 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
Is there air-side transit now without having to go through customs and back through immigration again in Shanghai PVG?

I had always stopped in Shanghai itself and never paid attention to transit.

Thinking of doing a SIN-ICN-PVG-ICN-SEA routing with a 1.5 hour transit at PVG.
Do-able?

Visa wouldnt be an issue and I would just have a carry-on rollerboard and no check-in bags.

Thanks!
Despite having read that transit was possible airside, when I transited shanghai in April it looked to me like everyone was funneled out. I was changing airlines, so it wasn't a super-clean transit, but I didn't see anyway that a traveler could stay airside.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 10:07 am
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Assuming you do NOT have a valid Chinese visa....

Originally Posted by HawaiiO
Ah thank u!

The thing is I am planning a r/t PVG-SIN-PVG(via ICN).
Upon return to PVG, i'm going to get on the 2nd part of my PVG-ICN-SEA.
So, PVG becomes a transit point, kind of.

I have to get my boarding pass and check-in for PVG-ICN-SEA but maybe i can do that at ICN first, before leaving for PVG.

Hope that works, otherwise, i'll have a super tight connection.
Forget about your journey endpoints and focus on segments in each direction. Your description is a bit unclear. But if the overall trip is: SEA-ICN-PVG-SIN and return is SIN-PVG-ICN-SEA, this is OK. ICN-PVG-SIN on the outbound and SIN-PVG-ICN on the return are legal, as long as PVG stop is < 48 hours (assuming you have USA passport). This is OK even if split between two tickets--sounds like you have end-on-end ticketing on two different PNR's. If this is not the exact routing, what do you have?

If you have a valid Chinese visa, then the routing and ticketing is moot, and all you need to worry about is connection timing. Again, due to unclear description, there's no way of advising you on timing. You need to layout the segments, airlines, and how the ticket(s) are structured.

Originally Posted by igopogo
Despite having read that transit was possible airside, when I transited shanghai in April it looked to me like everyone was funneled out. I was changing airlines, so it wasn't a super-clean transit, but I didn't see anyway that a traveler could stay airside.
Interesting to know. Maybe this got announced and not started. Maybe started and then quickly rescinded. Hmm...

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Old May 4, 2012 | 2:00 pm
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I currently have a SEA-PVG-SEA with ICN connection.

Thinking of getting a PVG-SIN-PVG sandwiched inside the SEA-PVG-SEA flights.
The PVG-SIN-PVG will also connect at ICN.

So on my return back to SEA, on the same day, I will be flying from
SIN-ICN-PVG and then 1.5 hours later, PVG-ICN-SEA.

If I have to clear customs at PVG, go check-in and get boarding pass again at PVG, the 1.5 hours might be too short, it seems.

Thanks!
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Old May 4, 2012 | 4:41 pm
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Thanks, decided to go back to PVG a day early so I wont mis-connect.
Turns out the price was about $100 cheaper too.
But now i have to get a hotel room.

The things I do to earn miles...
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Old May 4, 2012 | 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
Thanks, decided to go back to PVG a day early so I wont mis-connect.
Turns out the price was about $100 cheaper too.
But now i have to get a hotel room.

The things I do to earn miles...
Just to triple confirm, you are not flying directly to and from Korea and China, are you? (I'm not asking about your ultimate destination because this is irrelevant.)
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Old May 4, 2012 | 6:00 pm
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Im flying from SIN to PVG via ICN.

Now I stay one night in PVG and fly out to SEA via ICN.

ICN is just a transit point for the flights.
I'm using Korean Air to get miles and have to transit through ICN.


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Just to triple confirm, you are not flying directly to and from Korea and China, are you? (I'm not asking about your ultimate destination because this is irrelevant.)
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Old May 4, 2012 | 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
I currently have a SEA-PVG-SEA with ICN connection.

Thinking of getting a PVG-SIN-PVG sandwiched inside the SEA-PVG-SEA flights.
The PVG-SIN-PVG will also connect at ICN.

So on my return back to SEA, on the same day, I will be flying from
SIN-ICN-PVG and then 1.5 hours later, PVG-ICN-SEA.
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Sounds like you are doing SEA-ICN-PVG-ICN-SIN-ICN-PVG-ICN-SEA, you will need a visa with two entries for this routing. You would not need a visa if you make your connection in any other country than Korea on yourway to and from SIN.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 6:31 pm
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My passport doesnt need a visa to enter China as long as i stay 14 days or less.
So I'm ok with the visa.

Much easier if I had just bought a direct PVG-SIN ticket.
Those are cheap too but earn 0 miles...


Originally Posted by m.y
Sounds like you are doing SEA-ICN-PVG-ICN-SIN-ICN-PVG-ICN-SEA, you will need a visa with two entries for this routing. You would not need a visa if you make your connection in any other country than Korea on yourway to and from SIN.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
My passport doesnt need a visa to enter China as long as i stay 14 days or less.
You shouldn't have posted in this thread.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 6:49 pm
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
My passport doesnt need a visa to enter China as long as i stay 14 days or less.
So I'm ok with the visa.
My apologies, I think a lot of us missed that part, most of the questions here pertain to whether one needs a visa or not.
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Old May 4, 2012 | 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by HawaiiO
My passport doesnt need a visa to enter China as long as i stay 14 days or less.
So I'm ok with the visa.

Much easier if I had just bought a direct PVG-SIN ticket.
Those are cheap too but earn 0 miles...
Originally Posted by rkkwan
You shouldn't have posted in this thread.
Agree with rkkwan. HawaiiO, you have succeeding in derailing this thread from the topic. Not cool to suddenly spring the "My passport doesn't need a visa..." after multiple postings saying nothing about this rather critical fact.

If it was a timing issue you were worried about due to your flights, that belongs in another thread, which you could have originated. Additionally, you continued to obfuscate on your exact routing/scheduling which wasted more time and effort of myself and others.

If you do not see fit to be upfront and honest with your questions, then I for one will be less inclined to respond at all to your future posts. None of us like to be played for suckers and have our time wasted.
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