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Loren Pechtel Feb 13, 2018 10:06 pm

Any suggestions for extracting favorites from an iPad?

My wife has gone a bit nuts in saving things and has filled up most of the memory. Is there anything other than her forwarding me all the saved stuff? (I've got a PC with more TB than she has GB.)

JetSetDave Mar 19, 2018 9:12 pm

I recently downloaded WeChat on my phone and tried to add my CC with no luck. It says I have to download the China, Hong Kong or Macau version to accept USA credit cards. My question is, if I wait till I arrive in Hangzhou to download this, how will the WeChat verification work if I dont have a valid phone number in China? Thanks!

889 Mar 20, 2018 3:27 am

I am not sure, but I believe the China, HK and Macau versions work with China, HK and Macau numbers.

azepine00 Jul 22, 2020 9:58 am

Bumping this up as there are persistent rumors of upcoming Wechat block in US. Many local wechat users are looking into transition to telegram and whatsapp which in turn are blocked in china. I think skype messaging works in both - no idea how user friendly that thing is. I think we are gonna need VPN here in US :rolleyes:

This is a seriously messed up world that's going backwards.

889 Jul 22, 2020 10:24 am

You can message back and forth on Skype, but it's not designed as a "mass messaging" platform like WeChat. Hard to see it becoming popular.

YuropFlyer Jul 22, 2020 10:26 am

I guess you could always use a VPN when you're in the US to use WeChat (and other services their government doesn't like)

moondog Jul 23, 2020 12:46 am


Originally Posted by azepine00 (Post 32550523)
Bumping this up as there are persistent rumors of upcoming Wechat block in US. Many local wechat users are looking into transition to telegram and whatsapp which in turn are blocked in china. I think skype messaging works in both - no idea how user friendly that thing is. I think we are gonna need VPN here in US :rolleyes:

This is a seriously messed up world that's going backwards.

I haven't used Skype or MSN (if it still exists) in years because WeChat is categorically better than both. Sure, you need to remember not to post pictures of Pooh, but this isn't such a tough ask. Apart from the guys in the FT group, my mom is the only US based person I know who uses WeChat. We usually just chat, but the call quality is excellent. I use google hangouts (with my HK sims) when I want to make calls to US phone numbers. Since this is not a protected forum, I will refrain from going into detail about taboo topics, but sex, politics, and religion are obvious.

azepine00 Jul 23, 2020 11:27 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32552235)
I haven't used Skype or MSN (if it still exists) in years because WeChat is categorically better than both. Sure, you need to remember not to post pictures of Pooh, but this isn't such a tough ask. Apart from the guys in the FT group, my mom is the only US based person I know who uses WeChat. We usually just chat, but the call quality is excellent. I use google hangouts (with my HK sims) when I want to make calls to US phone numbers. Since this is not a protected forum, I will refrain from going into detail about taboo topics, but sex, politics, and religion are obvious.

well here in US these days it's not about topics but fearmongering and politics in general.. visas/green cards for chinese students, "chinese army" affiliations and "espionage", consulate closure and it apparently very likely block of tiktok and wechat... not sure what means can be used here in US to block access - aside of sporting events viewing restrictions i never encountered such thing...

azepine00 Jul 27, 2020 9:01 pm

Blocked in india as of last weekend...

moondog Jul 27, 2020 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by azepine00 (Post 32553428)
well here in US these days it's not about topics but fearmongering and politics in general.. visas/green cards for chinese students, "chinese army" affiliations and "espionage", consulate closure and it apparently very likely block of tiktok and wechat... not sure what means can be used here in US to block access - aside of sporting events viewing restrictions i never encountered such thing...

Tencent reportedly monitors all Wechat conversations for taboo keywords and images.

azepine00 Jul 29, 2020 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32563408)
Tencent reportedly monitors all Wechat conversations for taboo keywords and images.

I recal reading that accounts linked to non-chinese phones do not get the same scrutiny - some of my friends here post stuff that is likely taboo in china

Either way india shutdown is not related to tencent censorship..

lsquare Jul 31, 2020 5:08 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32552235)
I haven't used Skype or MSN (if it still exists) in years because WeChat is categorically better than both. Sure, you need to remember not to post pictures of Pooh, but this isn't such a tough ask. Apart from the guys in the FT group, my mom is the only US based person I know who uses WeChat. We usually just chat, but the call quality is excellent. I use google hangouts (with my HK sims) when I want to make calls to US phone numbers. Since this is not a protected forum, I will refrain from going into detail about taboo topics, but sex, politics, and religion are obvious.

I have successfully used WhatsApp, FB and what not with a foreign SIM. I'm pretty sure VPN will allow that to work as well.

lsquare Jul 31, 2020 5:09 am


Originally Posted by azepine00 (Post 32568260)
I recal reading that accounts linked to non-chinese phones do not get the same scrutiny - some of my friends here post stuff that is likely taboo in china

Either way india shutdown is not related to tencent censorship..

I don't know if it's linked to a Chinese phone number or not, but I think BBC and NYT reporters have reported of their accounts being shut down without explanation.

lsquare Jul 31, 2020 5:10 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32563408)
Tencent reportedly monitors all Wechat conversations for taboo keywords and images.

I'm not surprised.

moondog Jul 31, 2020 5:41 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32571193)
I have successfully used WhatsApp, FB and what not with a foreign SIM. I'm pretty sure VPN will allow that to work as well.

I have no problems accessing either, but they aren't popular here.

lsquare Jul 31, 2020 7:20 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32571245)
I have no problems accessing either, but they aren't popular here.

1. Government fiat.

2. Network effect.

3. Winner takes all.

This goes a long way to explain WeChat’s dominance in China.

moondog Jul 31, 2020 7:37 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32571452)
1. Government fiat.

2. Network effect.

3. Winner takes all.

This goes a long way to explain WeChat’s dominance in China.

4.Wechat is simply better

lsquare Jul 31, 2020 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32571497)
4.Wechat is simply better

lol! I'm not convinced yet!

moondog Jul 31, 2020 11:19 pm


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32572876)
lol! I'm not convinced yet!

Even Zuckerberg agrees on this point.

lsquare Jul 31, 2020 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32573196)
Even Zuckerberg agrees on this point.

He said that? Source?

plunet Aug 1, 2020 1:33 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32573226)
He said that? Source?

Easy to find, just search for "Zuckerberg WeChat" - most of the stories link back to statements he made in spring 2019.

Example:
https://www.scmp.com/tech/apps-socia...r-advice-about

azepine00 Aug 6, 2020 8:11 pm

So it begins... hopefully this madness will be stopped by courts

lsquare Aug 6, 2020 8:42 pm


Originally Posted by azepine00 (Post 32587265)
So it begins... hopefully this madness will be stopped by courts

I disagree with you. China often talk about reciprocity in international relations. Since FB and Twitter is banned in the Mainland, it's only fair that WeChat is banned as well.

username Aug 7, 2020 12:27 am

This came through on my Youtube. What are the implications? While I don't trust having WeChat on my phone and don't really use it, this can be really inconvenient for a lot of people.


Smiley90 Aug 7, 2020 12:44 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32587305)
I disagree with you. China often talk about reciprocity in international relations. Since FB and Twitter is banned in the Mainland, it's only fair that WeChat is banned as well.

Yeah I'm not sure "China does it so it's okay" is a good line of reasoning

username Aug 7, 2020 12:58 am

When they go low, we go lower :rolleyes:

lsquare Aug 7, 2020 3:06 am


Originally Posted by username (Post 32587533)
This came through on my Youtube. What are the implications? While I don't trust having WeChat on my phone and don't really use it, this can be really inconvenient for a lot of people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKfJHLloI1c

Yes and no. WeChat is not a secured platform anyways.

lsquare Aug 7, 2020 3:11 am


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 32587552)
Yeah I'm not sure "China does it so it's okay" is a good line of reasoning

There's nothing illegal or immoral with what I'm proposing.

lsquare Aug 7, 2020 3:12 am


Originally Posted by username (Post 32587575)
When they go low, we go lower :rolleyes:

That doesn't even make any sense. How are we going lower if we ban WeChat? That's ridiculous.

moondog Aug 7, 2020 6:27 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32587757)
That doesn't even make any sense. How are we going lower if we ban WeChat? That's ridiculous.

Tencent made a half hearted attempt to enter the US market about 8 years ago. They gave up and focused on South America. If the US blocks them, we won't lose any sleep, and trump will look good.

TT is a different beast. I don't fully understand it yet, but it has serious momentum.

Basically, during the course of the past 20 years, we went from actually calling each other to SMS, msn, and finally wx. Tik tok is the new frontier.

lsquare Aug 7, 2020 9:51 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32588011)
Tencent made a half hearted attempt to enter the US market about 8 years ago. They gave up and focused on South America. If the US blocks them, we won't lose any sleep, and trump will look good.

TT is a different beast. I don't fully understand it yet, but it has serious momentum.

Basically, during the course of the past 20 years, we went from actually calling each other to SMS, msn, and finally wx. Tik tok is the new frontier.

Hard to say if Tiktok is a fad or not. It might not have staying power and fade over time. Lots of apps and games had such fate.

moondog Aug 7, 2020 10:45 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32588559)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-50511063

This is what I meant and we're talking about 2020 not what had happened in the past.

This thread is about Wechat, a pretty benign topic. I implore you guys to keep the China forum free from politics. Bad OMNI is best suited for this, and all of us have access.

YuropFlyer Aug 7, 2020 11:11 am

I totally agree with moondog.

Unfortunatately, the economical assault by the US dictatorial regime against WeChat does involve politics.

moondog Aug 7, 2020 11:26 am


Originally Posted by YuropFlyer (Post 32588663)
I totally agree with moondog.

Unfortunatately, the economical assault by the US dictatorial regime against WeChat does involve politics.

Let them block it. I will hook mom up with Ast. Nobody else seems to care. Tiktok is a game changer. They have way less capital than Tencent, but they are well positioned to top Wechat.

moondog Aug 7, 2020 12:11 pm

Wechat is obviously strong in China (one billion members), but it doesn't have a strong presence in other markets, apart from Brazil and Argentina (thank David Wu for this).

Tiktok somehow managed to penetrate the US. I don't think the US will block them.

minhaoxue Aug 8, 2020 12:32 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32588799)
Wechat is obviously strong in China (one billion members), but it doesn't have a strong presence in other markets, apart from Brazil and Argentina (thank David Wu for this).

Tiktok somehow managed to penetrate the US. I don't think the US will block them.

With regards to Tiktok, they are in talks with Microsoft to take over their US, Australian, New Zealand Operations. There was a report Microsoft wants to purchase all of Tiktok. They are floating a 30-50 Billion dollar price. I guess we will see what happens to Tiktok and Wechat in 45 days. On a side note, India really went to town banning dozens of Chinese apps.

azepine00 Aug 8, 2020 12:37 am

On a semirelated note Haotong Li took the lead at PGA championship while wearing wechat cap. Awesome timing :)

BuildingMyBento Aug 9, 2020 7:17 am


Originally Posted by minhaoxue (Post 32589759)
With regards to Tiktok, they are in talks with Microsoft to take over their US, Australian, New Zealand Operations. There was a report Microsoft wants to purchase all of Tiktok. They are floating a 30-50 Billion dollar price. I guess we will see what happens to Tiktok and Wechat in 45 days. On a side note, India really went to town banning dozens of Chinese apps.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1e7194ac2f.jpg

Loren Pechtel Aug 13, 2020 4:54 pm

Are they already blocking? I had to reboot and it won't come up on my PC now--it wants confirmation on my phone but the confirmation request never shows up.

YuropFlyer Aug 14, 2020 1:16 am


Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel (Post 32602669)
Are they already blocking? I had to reboot and it won't come up on my PC now--it wants confirmation on my phone but the confirmation request never shows up.

use a VPN to get around the Trumpwall maybe?


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