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trueblu Nov 15, 2015 4:00 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 25696588)
While I'm hard pressed to think of anywhere better than dtf off hand (and I actively dislike the original 南翔 place), I think there is value in seeking out venues that have a bit more local flavor. (Why come all the way to Shanghai to get the exact same product that's on offer in Seattle?)

Fair point...and for sure, my first trip to SH I did go for a local XLB -- and found it OK, but not as good as the DTF in BJ.



Originally Posted by bocastephen (Post 25699256)
There is an unfortunate wide variety in quality and taste among DTF branches worldwide, even within its home city, Taipei in Taiwan.

There are pretty bad locations in LA (Arcadia is good), and even within Taipei you need to choose carefully. Seattle is very iffy, and can be OK or bad or good depending on the day/time....and of course don't bother trying the location in Toronto which is a fake knockoff called 'DinG Tai Fung', which fooled me at first glance and almost swore me off the brand before I figured out they ripped off the real DTF.

For the best XLB, I try to find the under the radar mom and pop shops that locals gravitate to.

This is totally fair: we tend to go to DTF only in BJ, and only 2-3 of the locations, so my experience is not as wide as yours...but I can only assume that going to a _random_ XLB stall is bound to more of a chancy venture than going to a DTF.

You forget that locals also tend to gravitate to DTF -- I've never seen a location that isn't busy...and 99+% are Chinese. It may be that they are sl. more well-healed locals, but I doubt they are not discerning at all.

tb

uanj Nov 15, 2015 6:57 am


Originally Posted by Hoyaheel (Post 25696981)
Well, none of the DTF locations are nearby me or where I might travel, with the exception of one of the Shanghai locations - I was contemplating exploring the Xujiahui area on my last night and there's a location in a mall there. Will probably still ask the students if there are places closer to the university/hotel. Will probably also ask them to write out an order for me:)

The DTF in XJH's Grand Gateway is really good, you won't go wrong there. And you will not have any major problem even if you don't speak a word of Chinese.

Hoyaheel Nov 15, 2015 9:05 am


Originally Posted by uanj (Post 25715730)
The DTF in XJH's Grand Gateway is really good, you won't go wrong there. And you will not have any major problem even if you don't speak a word of Chinese.

Good to know - thank you!

anacapamalibu Nov 15, 2015 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by trueblu (Post 25715356)

You forget that locals also tend to gravitate to DTF -- I've never seen a location that isn't busy...and 99+% are Chinese. .

tb

Really?

DTF Beijing.

http://arcadiasbest.com/wp-content/u...GroupTable.jpg

trueblu Nov 15, 2015 10:02 pm


Originally Posted by anacapamalibu (Post 25718585)
Really?

DTF Beijing.

Yes, really. That photo didn't show the 495 Chinese people in the restaurant in hour before and after it was taken.

Of course DTF has foreigners in it: we're talking about it in English for one. But it's certainly not like some expat restaurants where 20% of the clientele may be non-Chinese.

Have your personal experiences at DTF on the mainland been different?

tb

moondog Nov 15, 2015 10:39 pm

I tried the black truffle (pork) xlb at dtf in xtd yesterday for the first time. While I can't say that I would ever order it a second time by choice, it was an interesting flavor combination (strong truffle taste).

anacapamalibu Nov 16, 2015 1:34 pm


Originally Posted by trueblu (Post 25719106)
Yes, really. That photo didn't show the 495 Chinese people in the restaurant in hour before and after it was taken.

Of course DTF has foreigners in it: we're talking about it in English for one. But it's certainly not like some expat restaurants where 20% of the clientele may be non-Chinese.

Have your personal experiences at DTF on the mainland been different?

tb

I was thinking more along the lines of tourists not expats...since they have many locations worldwide and tourists might find it more comforting.

I don't recall eating at any DTF in the mainland, but do know it is quite popular here in US locations with non-Chinese.

On second thought, after reading MDs post above, I do recall eating at the XTD location. But considered it inline with the general disneyland appearance of XTD.

Skyman65 Nov 16, 2015 5:01 pm

I went to probably the most popular XLB joint in my town last night. Hadn't been there in a while, but I had a friend visiting from the US, and she wanted to try it. I was surprised at how many foreigners I saw there. It's a big place, and maybe 20% of the tables were laowai. That's huge for Tainan (if you don't count the few places in town the cater specifically to foreigners). Most of them looked like engineers, probably working out at the Science Park. Didn't look like tourists.

I guess XLB has become a "thing" among the expats.

anacapamalibu Nov 16, 2015 8:14 pm


Originally Posted by Skyman65 (Post 25724086)

I guess XLB has become a "thing" among the expats.

Ultimate comfort food, dough and pork.

I like Qingdao and duck neck, chicken feet appetizer, and hot pot with pig brain.:p

mosburger Nov 19, 2015 6:29 am

I've still only eaten these delicious creatures at two locations.

First, Zhabei with my Shanghainese close friend (I was his best man when he married) several times and then during trade fair visits at some reasonably local streets a few stone throws from Longyang Rd. station.

For any visitor wishing to enjoy "truly local" Shanghainese restaurants and brekkie joints, Zhabei would probably be the place to go. It's middle class and above, several generations of local families live there and not pretentious at all.

Take metro line 1, get off at North Zhongshan Rd. or Yancghang Rd. and enjoy your breakfast or brunch.


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