tradernick

Is there a way to find out what airlines/cities offer nonstop to shanghai? Or for that matter, any other international destination? I'm poking through many airline websites only to be offered 1 or 2 stops which equal 24+ hours total travel time. If I had a list of airlines offering nonstop, and from which airports, it would make finding my flights much faster. Best I've found so far is delta from my home port of mco to sfo, then united nonstop to pvg. I'm ok with that but if I knew which airlines/cities offered nonstops it would make my search so much easier. I guess I kinda suck at this since I don't do it as often as most of you do.
Nick

jiejie

I'd like to know of a similar website also.

As to your question, if you are looking for nonstops from North American cities to/from PVG, operating own metal (excluding codeshares), I think there is:

EWR: CO
JFK: MU (China Eastern)
DTW: Delta
ORD: UA, AA
SFO: UA
LAX: MU
YVR: MU
YYZ: AC

PVG is not my usual airport, so maybe FT'ers who've scoured the universe for the same nonstop options can chime in here. Your options go up considerably if you don't mind a connection in Tokyo or Seoul, maybe HKG. As a veteran of countless China-Eastern US flights, I regret to inform you that it often entails 24 hours of travelling in each direction, especially if you don't live in a gateway city.

moondog

I do this sort of research on a regular basis for award tickets, albeit to much more obscure places than Shanghai (as such, skip the rest of this paragraph if you only care about SH). Step 1: google "<CITY NAME> airport wiki" in order to figure out what airlines fly there and from which cities. Step 2: after verifying that airline X is member of desired alliance, go to its website and check schedules (often 3-4 flights per week). Step 3: figure out easiest way to get from where I am to the city I chose in step 2.

As for MCO-China, both AA and UA fly MCO-ORD-PEK/PVG.

Also,

UA- MCO-SFO-PEK/PVG
CO -MCO-EWR-PEK/PVG
DL- MCO-DTW-PVG

joejones

www.openflights.org will show you all nonstops from any airport on a map (click the airport, then the little web-like icon).

cmn.jcs

Here's something from another FTer:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-released.html

I've enjoyed playing around with it. Only issue is that it's not necessarily updated routinely (current version is from April 2010).

MP (Miles+Points)

Simply using Wikipedia, type in "Shanghai Pudong Airport", normally only direct flights are listed under "airlines and destinations" section.

Most of airport pages on Wikipedia are up to date.

tradernick

Thanks for the great info and tools, folks. This forum is awesome.
Nick

samplat

You can also use matrix2.itasoftware.com for finding out which airlines offer non-stop service between a pair of airports.

Flaflyer

Going to the other side of the world just count on 20 to 24 hour total travel time if you get good connections. I see you mention going through SFO. Not the shortest flying time. Shortest is the great circle route. Get a globe and stretch a string from Florida to Shanghai. Direct is over the midwest then Alaska then down the coast past Russia. That is why I go DL (used to be the NW routes) to Asia, transfer at MSP or DTW. It is "on the way". DL had a ATL nonstop but they dropped it

It is actually more flying time to dogleg to CA and then to Asia. The reason people do and the airlines schedule it is there so much traffic between CA and Asia there are lots of flights and low prices with so much competition. The other consideration is a mid winter trip where DTW might have snow trouble, you might want to connect at LAX where they have far fewer snow days.

The other direct route from Florida is CO thru EWR. Their nonstop goes over the North Pole then Siberia and China to PVG. From MCO I would do CO thru EWR or DL connecting at DTW. Both one stop trips with the shortest flying times. Pick whichever alliance you collect FF miles on. After about 22 hours my behind hurts from sitting. Every extra flying hour is agony.

Note: the DL computer will try, but do NOT schedule less than a two hour connection (3 is better, my personal minimum time) at DTW on your return. Immigration and customs is a zoo. A slow zoo. You are lucky to get out of there in an hour. If your plane is the least bit late you or your bag will miss your connnection.

maltasr

Don't forget Vancouver (YVR) to PVG on Air Canada. I'm sitting in the lounge now waiting
for my flight to San Diego after returning from Shanghai. Made it in 9 1/2 hours. Good routings to and from West Coast.

Doesn't DL have service from ATL? If so, that would be the best connection from MCO. I know they fly there because I saw their livery today at PVG.

Blue Tiger

DL had non stop from ATL to PVG.That was when NWA and DL were seperate airlines now DL flies non stop only from DTW

Flaflyer

You have lots of different choices from the left coast. Florida is over here on the earthquakes-are-scared-away-by-the-hurricanes coast.

The great circle route goes right over ATL and MSP and ICN.

DL dropped the 777 ATL service I believe last fall. I think it lasted about a year. Yes it was the best choice from the southeast. Currently DL has a 777 nonstop from DTW and a 744 that stops for 2 hours at Narita on the way, which is slightly out of the way. From ATL there is the daily? Korean 744 to ICN which is right on the way and then an hour or so on smaller KE metal to PVG

moondog

IIRC, there were an average of 18 O&D pax per day, not exactly 777 material.