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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 2:22 am
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Beijing Aviation Museum

December 23, 2009 I have visited the aviation museum near Beijing
A big surprise of the huge collection!

Recently re-opened and all airplanes got a "bath"
200 different airplanes are parked at the area.
Also very unknown airplanes are showed
like the Harbin SH-5
Chinese maritime patrol amphibian
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6743154


Tupolev Tu-4
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6743129

Il-18 Cockpit China Air Force
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6743028


If you are also in Beijing, I advise you to spend at least 4 hours to see all!!
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 2:31 am
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Tx for the tip. Will plan to visit on my next trip.
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 7:54 am
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Do they have an exhibit on reverse engineering aircraft technology that was developed by others?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 8:27 pm
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Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman
Do they have an exhibit on reverse engineering aircraft technology that was developed by others?
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Old Jan 1, 2010 | 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman
Do they have an exhibit on reverse engineering aircraft technology that was developed by others?
Well yeah, they have a B-29 Superfortess that first flew in 1942. That's
about the extent of their reverse engineering of US aircraft. Watch the
airshow from the 60th Anniversary of the PRC last October. Air superiority is not necessarily a financially lucrative venture.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
Well yeah, they have a B-29 Superfortess that first flew in 1942. That's
about the extent of their reverse engineering of US aircraft. Watch the
airshow from the 60th Anniversary of the PRC last October. Air superiority is not necessarily a financially lucrative venture.
China is well known to be attempting to develop their own leading edge commercial jet airliner. And they are believed to have stolen or reverse engineered quite a bit of the technology needed to do it from Boeing and Airbus.
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Old Jan 2, 2010 | 10:15 pm
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Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman
they are believed to have stolen or reverse engineered quite a bit of the technology .
Don't doubt that. Supposedly they are about ready to fly copies of the C-17
and C-130, USAF military transports. That should cause quite a stir.

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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 12:30 am
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Why reinvent the wheel (or the Hermes tie!)?
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Why reinvent the wheel (or the Hermes tie!)?
Because they believe they need "wheels with Chinese characteristics." Make them cheaply then foist on country and world.
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Old Jan 3, 2010 | 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by moondog
Why reinvent the wheel
Why study when you can cheat.
Why work when you can steal.
Why tell the truth when you can lie.
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by anacapamalibu
Why study when you can cheat.
Why work when you can steal.
Why tell the truth when you can lie.
While I must give you props for your accurate summary of the way things often work in China, IMO reducing matters to moral principles does little to advance the causes of Western business interests. Basically, anyone who wants to sell and/or produce in China has to assume that their IP is going to be (for lack of a better word) compromised. If they can come to terms with that and still figure out a way to make money, then they're good to go. Otherwise, they should stick with markets that offer better protection.
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Originally Posted by moondog
IMO reducing matters to moral principles does little to advance the causes of Western business interests.
Chinese response to "American" interests.

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