The TSA and Sukkot
Oct 14, 2008 | 10:27 am
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http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../Chertoff.html
.....Being the son of a rabbi, Chertoff is also known to have strong ties to the Jewish community. Both of his children have attended Jewish private schools, and his wife, Meryl, was a co-chairwomen of the regional Anti-Defamation League's civil rights committee....
Oct 16, 2008 | 1:27 am
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If said permission also extends to FWM, there really has been progress!
Oct 16, 2008 | 4:12 am
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background for those not familiar with sukkot
http://urj.org/Articles/index.cfm?id=12017
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but-for the life of me, i can't figure out why this poses a "security issue" let alone is even worth mentioning other than the fact skeltor is tribe......
http://www.tsa.dhs.gov/press/happenings/sukkot.shtm
http://urj.org/Articles/index.cfm?id=12017
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but-for the life of me, i can't figure out why this poses a "security issue" let alone is even worth mentioning other than the fact skeltor is tribe......
http://www.tsa.dhs.gov/press/happenings/sukkot.shtm
Dec 2, 2008 | 3:07 pm
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LOL....tho you may be right......
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../Chertoff.html
It's too bad some of Mrs Skeletor's civil rights stuff never rubbed off.
Originally Posted by goalie
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../Chertoff.html
.....Being the son of a rabbi, Chertoff is also known to have strong ties to the Jewish community. Both of his children have attended Jewish private schools, and his wife, Meryl, was a co-chairwomen of the regional Anti-Defamation League's civil rights committee....
Oct 1, 2009 | 10:58 am
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it's that time of year again....
time to break out my ter'wrist palm fronds
this year's press release.....
now, i am tribe and i have never heard of jewish holiday beginning "on approximately <insert date>"
. last time i looked, everything starts at sundown, right . somebody needs to proofread
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/sukkot_2009.shtm
and to refresh one's memory, last year's press release
this year's press release.....
now, i am tribe and i have never heard of jewish holiday beginning "on approximately <insert date>"
. last time i looked, everything starts at sundown, right . somebody needs to proofreadhttp://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/sukkot_2009.shtm
Religious Holiday of Sukkot
October 1, 2009
The travel period for the Jewish holiday of Sukkot begins approximately on Wednesday, September 30, 2009, and ends approximately on Tuesday, October 13, 2009.
Observant Jewish travelers may carry four plants a palm branch, myrtle twigs, willow twigs, and a citron in airports and through security checkpoints. These plants are religious articles and may be carried either separately or as a bundle. Jewish travelers may be observed in prayer, shaking the bundle of plants in six directions.
The workforce should note that TSAs screening procedures do not prohibit the carrying of such agricultural items through the airport or security checkpoints, or on airplanes. These plants are not on TSAs Prohibited Items List. And, as always, TSA is committed to treating all passengers, including passengers who may be observing Sukkot, with respect and dignity during the screening process.
October 1, 2009
The travel period for the Jewish holiday of Sukkot begins approximately on Wednesday, September 30, 2009, and ends approximately on Tuesday, October 13, 2009.
Observant Jewish travelers may carry four plants a palm branch, myrtle twigs, willow twigs, and a citron in airports and through security checkpoints. These plants are religious articles and may be carried either separately or as a bundle. Jewish travelers may be observed in prayer, shaking the bundle of plants in six directions.
The workforce should note that TSAs screening procedures do not prohibit the carrying of such agricultural items through the airport or security checkpoints, or on airplanes. These plants are not on TSAs Prohibited Items List. And, as always, TSA is committed to treating all passengers, including passengers who may be observing Sukkot, with respect and dignity during the screening process.
Religious Events of Sukkot
October 7, 2008
TSA recognizes that the travel period for Sukkot, a significant event for persons of the Jewish faith, begins approximately on October 14, 2008, and ends approximately on October 20, 2008.
TSAs standard operating procedures do not prohibit the carrying of the four plants which include a palm branch, myrtle twigs, willow twigs, and a citron through the airport or the security checkpoints, or on aircraft. These plants are not on TSAs Prohibited Items List.
TSA understands that this is a significant religious event for the Jewish faith and has reminded its security workforce that members of the Jewish faith may be observed engaging in religious practices or meditations and carrying the four plants.
October 7, 2008
TSA recognizes that the travel period for Sukkot, a significant event for persons of the Jewish faith, begins approximately on October 14, 2008, and ends approximately on October 20, 2008.
TSAs standard operating procedures do not prohibit the carrying of the four plants which include a palm branch, myrtle twigs, willow twigs, and a citron through the airport or the security checkpoints, or on aircraft. These plants are not on TSAs Prohibited Items List.
TSA understands that this is a significant religious event for the Jewish faith and has reminded its security workforce that members of the Jewish faith may be observed engaging in religious practices or meditations and carrying the four plants.
Oct 1, 2009 | 12:19 pm
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Anybody who is robservant enough to bentsch lulav would likely be observant enough not to travel on the holiday itself.
Oct 1, 2009 | 6:26 pm
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It didn't say the Holiday begins on approximately the date, but that the associated travel period does. Which makes perfect sense to me. It's like saying that people start traveling for Thanksgiving sometime around Tuesday morning before that date.
Anybody who is robservant enough to bentsch lulav would likely be observant enough not to travel on the holiday itself.
Anybody who is robservant enough to bentsch lulav would likely be observant enough not to travel on the holiday itself.
Sep 14, 2010 | 7:21 am
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it's that time of year agian....
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/091310_sukkot.shtm
just some date changing form last years "mission" so to all the sheeple 'n kettles out there, those funny looking folks with beards and long coats who are speaking in a funny language and sometimes bowing up and down while shaking their bundle of plants are not ter'wrists
Religious Holiday of Sukkot
News & Happenings
September 13, 2010
The travel period for the Jewish holiday of Sukkot is from September 19 through October 4, 2010.
Observant Jewish travelers may carry four plants a palm branch, myrtle twigs, willow twigs, and a citron in airports and through security checkpoints. These plants are religious articles and may be carried either separately or as a bundle. Jewish travelers may be observed in prayer, shaking the bundle of plants in six directions.
TSAs screening procedures do not prohibit the carrying of such agricultural items through the airport or security checkpoints, or on airplanes. These plants are not on TSAs Prohibited Items List. And, as always, TSA is committed to treating all passengers, including passengers who may be observing Sukkot, with respect and dignity during the screening process.
News & Happenings
September 13, 2010
The travel period for the Jewish holiday of Sukkot is from September 19 through October 4, 2010.
Observant Jewish travelers may carry four plants a palm branch, myrtle twigs, willow twigs, and a citron in airports and through security checkpoints. These plants are religious articles and may be carried either separately or as a bundle. Jewish travelers may be observed in prayer, shaking the bundle of plants in six directions.
TSAs screening procedures do not prohibit the carrying of such agricultural items through the airport or security checkpoints, or on airplanes. These plants are not on TSAs Prohibited Items List. And, as always, TSA is committed to treating all passengers, including passengers who may be observing Sukkot, with respect and dignity during the screening process.
Sep 14, 2010 | 7:31 pm
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http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/091310_sukkot.shtm
just some date changing form last years "mission" so to all the sheeple 'n kettles out there, those funny looking folks with beards and long coats who are speaking in a funny language and sometimes bowing up and down while shaking their bundle of plants are not ter'wrists
just some date changing form last years "mission" so to all the sheeple 'n kettles out there, those funny looking folks with beards and long coats who are speaking in a funny language and sometimes bowing up and down while shaking their bundle of plants are not ter'wrists
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Sep 14, 2010 | 7:44 pm
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Seriously, though ... TSA keeps telling people to "report anything unusual". By definition, this sort of activity is "unusual"; you don't see people doing this every day in public. Of course, because "unusual" is inappropriately equated with "suspicious", one has to issue disclaimers like this so that all of these observant folks aren't inappropriately accused of ... um ... whatever.
Sep 14, 2010 | 8:57 pm
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Sep 15, 2010 | 7:54 am
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Welllll, the leaves are quite sharp and have been known to cut in the past. I can actually see some idiot at security telling me that these are knifelike and too sharp to take past security.
