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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 2:27 pm
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Didn't John McCain say something, answering a question about government run healthcare that if you want to see how efficiently (don't know if that was the right word) the government runs things, that you should go to the airport?

I have little doubt in my mind that the knowledge of the TSA farce is in the minds of the candidates, but as mentioned a billion times before in this forum, ain't no pol is going to try to look soft on terror.

Frankly, I think the TSA is so low on the list of priorities among politicians, it isn't even measurable.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Cholula
This thread is not about who you want to win the US Presidential race or who is the better candidate. It's about the positions that the various candidates have regarding TSA/DHS.
Don't you mean "best" candidate?

Want to see the TSA destroyed? Bob Barr's your candidate.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Didn't John McCain say something, answering a question about government run healthcare that if you want to see how efficiently (don't know if that was the right word) the government runs things, that you should go to the airport?

I have little doubt in my mind that the knowledge of the TSA farce is in the minds of the candidates, but as mentioned a billion times before in this forum, ain't no pol is going to try to look soft on terror.

Frankly, I think the TSA is so low on the list of priorities among politicians, it isn't even measurable.

Yes, I just posted that, but it got deleted, but I'll try one last time...

"And by the way, the next time you think the government should take over the health-care system of America, go to our airport and go through security." -- John McCain
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by n5667
Yes, I just posted that, but it got deleted, but I'll try one last time...

"And by the way, the next time you think the government should take over the health-care system of America, go to our airport and go through security." -- John McCain
Hadn't seen that one. ^

But talk from either candidate is especially cheap this year. Again, it is unlikely we will see any real change in TSA practices in any new administration.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 4:58 pm
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It's going to be SSDD no matter who gets elected.
No, it's going to be SSSS no matter who gets elected.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
IMHO, both parties have trashed the Constitution and infringed on our freedoms to further the party platform.
There was only one candidate who actually had the constitution as his platform.

Today, police feel free to target supporters of Ron Paul. That in itself should tell you something.
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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 5:05 pm
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Bob Barr on TSA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18zXWV6Cxw ^

Too bad his odds of getting elected are fairly low and there is more to getting TSA disbanded than just getting elected and snapping fingers.

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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 12:10 pm
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Let's face it folks, there are much bigger fish to fry in this country than the TSA.

Health care, the economy/jobs, oil prices, etc. all tower over the miniscule inconvenience that we refer to as the TSA.

Hence why you don't hear much about it mainstream except for some folks who happen to be annoyed/inconvenienced/etc. by the TSA frequently due to frequent air travel.

Personally I'd gladly face the TSA garbage 1-2x per week and be paying $1.50 for gas again.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 12:49 pm
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you are right on that one.... QUOTE=n4zhg;10155393]No, it's going to be SSSS no matter who gets elected.[/QUOTE]
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Cargojon
Let's face it folks, there are much bigger fish to fry in this country than the TSA.

Health care, the economy/jobs, oil prices, etc. all tower over the miniscule inconvenience that we refer to as the TSA.

Hence why you don't hear much about it mainstream except for some folks who happen to be annoyed/inconvenienced/etc. by the TSA frequently due to frequent air travel.

Personally I'd gladly face the TSA garbage 1-2x per week and be paying $1.50 for gas again.
I'd rather pay $5 for gas and have a gov't that's not hostile to civil liberties, supports the constitution, and undoes the travesty on rights done in this country the last 8 years.

You can have a great economy and still have limited rights. Just look at China. Is that who we really want to be?
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Superguy
I'd rather pay $5 for gas and have a gov't that's not hostile to civil liberties, supports the constitution, and undoes the travesty on rights done in this country the last 8 years.

You can have a great economy and still have limited rights. Just look at China. Is that who we really want to be?
Gotta agree here. The TSA is one area that the new president will actually have direct control over, and the one area that can most affect our freedoms. The issues involved here go far beyond the geeks manning the security checkpoints. It goes to the basic question of how much freedom we are willing to surrender to the government. That is likely why none of the candidates talks about it much. Blaming the other side for high gas prices is much more fun.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by doober
A year ago, Obama said this in a speech entitled "The War We Need to Win":



That gives me a bit of hope.
It shouldn't.

Internally, DHS and TSA minions are all about citing risk. Trouble is they invariably exaggerate the risk of a given event to suit their selfish purposes.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Superguy
I'd rather pay $5 for gas and have a gov't that's not hostile to civil liberties, supports the constitution, and undoes the travesty on rights done in this country the last 8 years.

You can have a great economy and still have limited rights. Just look at China. Is that who we really want to be?
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 4:27 pm
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Nothing will happen. Nothing will change.

No one wants to be seen as being "soft" on terrorism.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 6:06 pm
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Originally Posted by SJCFlyerLG
the majority of the traveling public support "the mission" of the TSA,
Do you mean "majority of the voting public", rather than "majority of the traveling public"? A lot of voters do not travel (much), and do not live in areas that receive a lot of visitors (and the economic boost of their spending).
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