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SNA_Flyer Feb 26, 2008 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by law dawg (Post 9319185)
I took my shoes off in England, Japan, Korea, France and Germany, although I was flying to the US each time.

Just you just do this out of habit like many people (mostly stupid Americans) do, or were you actually told to do it? I'm just surprised, as I never was. And this was all for US bound flights.

muddy Feb 26, 2008 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer (Post 9320060)
Just you just do this out of habit like many people (mostly stupid Americans) do, or were you actually told to do it? I'm just surprised, as I never was. And this was all for US bound flights.

I wonder how many nationalities you could replace "Americans" with in the above post without setting off the FT PC alarms ;)

... aren't you from California? :confused:

law dawg Feb 26, 2008 6:24 pm


Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer (Post 9320060)
Just you just do this out of habit like many people (mostly stupid Americans) do, or were you actually told to do it? I'm just surprised, as I never was. And this was all for US bound flights.

Told to. I tried to walk through without doing so.

Fredrik74 Feb 27, 2008 6:24 am


Originally Posted by law dawg (Post 9319185)
I took my shoes off in England, Japan, Korea, France and Germany, although I was flying to the US each time.

Did you have to take off your shoes when you were flying intra-European flights too?

Without setting off the WTMD I doubt I have ever been told to remove my shoes when flying in Europe.

FliesWay2Much Feb 27, 2008 6:30 am

Vienna (VIE)
 
I just came back from Europe via Vienna. Shoes stayed on. The only things they were doing was the laptop out and the KHIAI bags. No FRA-style groping and no "interview."

How refreshing (except for the Kippie bag)! ...and, we arrived without being blown up by shampoo or shoes!

Spiff Feb 27, 2008 7:10 am


Originally Posted by Fredrik74 (Post 9322515)
Did you have to take off your shoes when you were flying intra-European flights too?

Without setting off the WTMD I doubt I have ever been told to remove my shoes when flying in Europe.

LHR plays the asinine shoe games at Flight Connections sometimes.

Fredrik74 Feb 27, 2008 7:50 am


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 9322719)
LHR plays the asinine shoe games at Flight Connections sometimes.

That's interesting - and bad.

LHR checks shoes for explosives in T3 or at least that's what they say. As long as you know about it you can pass through to the right of this and don't have to take off your shoes.

DallasBill Feb 28, 2008 9:10 am


Originally Posted by swei0009 (Post 9310145)
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I will comply with lawful instructions at the checkpoint. Away from the checkpoint you are just some airport creep who is bugging me. And I do not have to talk to airport creeps.

That is so funny and true I simply had to get it up here again! ^

:)

DillMan Feb 28, 2008 2:57 pm

Is it just me or does some of the TSA-employee commentary re: SPOT and BDO's remind anyone else of those people that volunter for the local volunteer fire department and have $4,350 of emergency lights on their $2,000 truck to use the one time every 6 months that a fire occurs?

islandtimer Feb 28, 2008 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by muddy (Post 9320150)
I wonder how many nationalities you could replace "Americans" with in the above post without setting off the FT PC alarms ;)

... aren't you from California? :confused:


What difference does it make where he/she is from in terms of the opinion they're allowed to voice? Is there a[nother] secret clause in the TOS that limits commentary according to your residence or nationality?

How very consistent coming from people who have a such an hysteric problem with the first names of TSAers being mentioned!:p:D

swei0009 Feb 29, 2008 7:55 pm

Well FWIW my personal security theartre worked flawlessly this week.

"Oh, no, you don't have to take your dogtags off." Sailed through four airports, no bag checks, no annoying questions, just "thank you for your service."

ArizonaGuy Mar 2, 2008 5:24 am


Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer (Post 9318926)
Wrong. Having traveled from all of those countries in the last few months, with the exception of France, the only one listed that has a shoe fetish is England, and it's "random".

I will concur with this argument as it relates to LHR.

In January, I passed through the T3 security. After the initial x-ray / mag scan, some were corralled into Heathrow's separated security line which hosts the shoe carnival. It was random and at that point the person doing the herding of sheep has no idea what anyone's destination is.

Also, my LGW-DUB and ORK-AMS routes involved no shoe carnival. I do not recall if anyone was using litre bags for liquid and I simply don't bother with any liquids whatsoever when I travel now. Also previous year's European flights of HHN-KRK, OTP-FRA-DUB, and IST-LTN were likewise relatively pain free as far as security screening goes.

muddy Mar 2, 2008 6:23 am


Originally Posted by islandtimer (Post 9332006)
What difference does it make where he/she is from in terms of the opinion they're allowed to voice? Is there a[nother] secret clause in the TOS that limits commentary according to your residence or nationality?

How very consistent coming from people who have a such an hysteric problem with the first names of TSAers being mentioned!:p:D

hardly hysterical ... but I do have a problem with identifying specific individual TSA employees for accusation/ridicule.

To answer your two questions ... (1) none ... and (2) not that I'm aware of. I wasn't implying otherwise.

essxjay Mar 2, 2008 7:38 am

Folks,

Please take the personal issues outside. If you want to ignore someone, the way to do it isn't by calling them out on thread. @:-) Thank you.

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