Flying without any security?
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The good old days....We used to be able buy by these from the harware store http://www.nfatoys.com/tsmg/ but should we allow it once again?
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There are responsibilities that go with the exercise of rights. You don't yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, but you have freedom of speech. Planting a bomb on a plane is not protected by the Constitution. Some folks have a real difficult time with this distinction.
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Mesa Air (until April 2007) with flights Watertown NY to Pittsburgh used the Beech 1900D. Big Sky Airlines took over and offers flights to Boston and Albany and they also use the Beech 1900D. In fact, I believe they bought their planes from Mesa!
Probably not many terrorists flying through Watertown NY these days!
Probably not many terrorists flying through Watertown NY these days!
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I have run into the same thing when flying on small craft going through the Canadian Arctic... no screening, cockpit door left open.
And before you say but there is nothing in the arctic, there are plenty of military establishments and NORAD bases/radar stations etc. Maybe the Inuit and Dene just aren't as paranoid as the rest of our continent.
And before you say but there is nothing in the arctic, there are plenty of military establishments and NORAD bases/radar stations etc. Maybe the Inuit and Dene just aren't as paranoid as the rest of our continent.
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I thought only flyertalkers wanted to fly to Watertown? On a more serious note while we have flaws in our security system suggesting to fly without security is just absurd. It would create an open invitation to every loon to attempt to create havoc on an aircraft.
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Howie
Cheers
Howie
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Is boarding an aircraft without security screening a constitutional right?
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I disagree completely. There are already plenty of holes in the asinine "security" that we are forced to endure at US airports. Anyone, anytime, can bring explosives past the checkpoint in their pants or in their butt. Why doesn't it happen? Because there just aren't that many terrorists out there as Comrade Hawley and Comrade Chertoff, the lowest of the low, would have you believe.
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Personally, I would like to know that there's more than my own wishes and your mental state between a flight with and bomb and one without.
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I would like to see the US government evicted from all US airports.
Airlines should be free to compete on whatever security they deem fit to provide and consumers should have a choice. I disagree with the hypothesis that no security would make all kinds of non-existent wackos come out of the woodwork. Our currrent US government-mandated idiocy already allows them to commit acts of terrorism at will.
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Well, unfortunately that's not the case. We have some filthy Communists putting the armlock on airlines and passengers with disgusting sentiments like "Do you want to fly today?" and "Do you want to be a common carrier today?" Meanwhile, in addition to their disgusting attitude, their procedures and policies that none are permitted to compete on are completely ineffective. If you want C4 on your flight, put it in your pants or butt and walk past the "security" checkpoint. It will not be detected. Ever.
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They should be part of on-board duty free sales, and free items in international F (like NC headphones). Maybe even part of pre-departure service.
Last edited by flysurfer; Oct 1, 2007 at 1:09 am
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While not openly inviting pax to visit the cockpit, my last few flights on Aeromexico and a recent flight on Aerolineas Argentina operated the entire flight with the cockpit doors wide open.
Granted these are both "third-world" airlines but it was somewhat strange nevertheless.
Granted these are both "third-world" airlines but it was somewhat strange nevertheless.

