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New video of DCA checkpoint crasher released...
http://www.tsa.gov/approach/mythbusters/index.shtm
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Originally Posted by flyinbob
(Post 7905831)
Someone explain this. There are cameras covering virtually every square inch of shopping malls, office buildings, even gas stations and streets. I see them in airports all over. High definition, all kinds of detail covered. With the claimed importance of the security checkpoints, aren't there cameras at the checkpoints? If not, why not? If so, why can't this be reviewed. Why aren't the people manning the checkpoints required to be microphoned like cops, with even eye level cameras?
http://www.tsa.dhs.gov/approach/mythbusters/index.shtm (ack, sorry, didn't realize I'd posted a double. leaving my post only because it's been quoted already.) |
Originally Posted by Random_Flyer
(Post 7910063)
The TSA actually posted video of the incident. Guess it is gaining traction.
http://www.tsa.dhs.gov/approach/mythbusters/index.shtm |
OK, interesting tapes. I noticed the main one cuts off prior to the end of the incident. Makes me wonder why.
Without sound, it is impossible to determine much of what went on. A few things appear right away: 1. The lady does appear to drop the water on purpose, though it is not too clear, an whatever amount is was does not appear to be too much (less that 3 oz.?). 2. It appears that both the TSA and cop put their hands on the lady to stop her. Big no-no. Unless you are placing someone under arrest, hands off. 3. Making her clean up the water would seem to be out of bounds too. Public humiliation is not the right of anyone to inflict. The TSA and the cop had no right to sentence this woman to manual labor, even if she did drop it right in front of them. Sentencing is for the judge. All they can do is charge or remove her. 4. Too many people for one woman and a baby. A cop and the TSA person should have been enough. An unnecessary show of force against a passenger. Unless you are dealing with a genuine threat, keep the crowd small. Again, a humiliating condition. This tape should be used as TSA training in how NOT to create situations out of nothing. |
I cannot believe that the TSA would ever release film of a non-criminal incident.
While I believe the mother was wrong in more ways than one, incidents such as this should remain confidential. Cleaning it up, well, that is kinda pushing it. Personally, I think they should have notified the airline's GSC and let them make the call to let her fly. Only one person has an excuse to act like an infant in this instance. JMHO though, I wasn't there. |
Ruh roh......
I just read the incident report.
If she is indeed an SSA, this isn't going to bode well for her. Especially if she goes to the media. I actually feel sorry for her now. A small lapse in judgment and emotional outburst could very well cost her a career. I hope she is smart enough to suck it up, apologize and let this thing die. |
Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget
(Post 7910361)
I just read the incident report.
If she is indeed an SSA, this isn't going to bode well for her. Especially if she goes to the media. I actually feel sorry for her now. A small lapse in judgment and emotional outburst could very well cost her a career. I hope she is smart enough to suck it up, apologize and let this thing die. It's simple - woman shows up with baby, has small cup of water (which she offers to drink), screener says 'please bring the baby's liquids through in an approved container next time' and sends passenger on her way. Done. No issue. |
Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 7910406)
How about some accountability on the part of the asinine screeners who got this situation escalated in the first place.
It's simple - woman shows up with baby, has small cup of water (which she offers to drink), screener says 'please bring the baby's liquids through in an approved container next time' and sends passenger on her way. Done. No issue. Water at the checkpoint shouldn't even be an issue, let alone an "approved" container. :td: |
Interesting as a Secret Service Agent, she can carry a gun on board but not a bottle of water. :rolleyes:
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Sippy Cup Spill Sparks Tiff at National Airport
TSA Uses Web to Counter Mother's Allegation of Improper Detention By Del Quentin Wilber and Cindy Loose Washington Post Staff Writers Saturday, June 16, 2007; D01 Federal security officials took the unusual step yesterday of posting an incident report and security camera footage on their Web site to counter allegations that screeners and police officers at Reagan National Airport mistreated a mother and her toddler this week. At issue is whether Monica Emmerson, a former Secret Service officer and District resident, was improperly detained when she spilled water out of her child's sippy cup. The story emerged Thursday morning and spread quickly on the Internet yesterday, as bloggers expressed outrage at the alleged treatment of the woman. The first blogger to pick up Emmerson's tale was Bill Adler, a District author who said he usually blogs only about issues in his Cleveland Park neighborhood. He was alerted to the airport saga by his wife, who spotted a note Emmerson wrote on a local e-mail mass mailing for parents ( http://www.dcurbanmoms.com). Adler said he thought the story was interesting, so he contacted Emmerson and interviewed her. |
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 7910115)
Wow -- What a full-court press by the TSA Spokeshole machine! I wonder why they retaliated like this on their web site? They are obviously taking their case to the court of public opinion. It's interesting that they managed to hold onto this checkpoint videotape for quite a long time.
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Originally Posted by Superguy
(Post 7910593)
Interesting as a Secret Service Agent, she can carry a gun on board but not a bottle of water. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 7910633)
"former" agent ...
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Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget
(Post 7910640)
Didn't she allegedly show her credentials? :confused:
Regardless, the point still stands that an LEO can take a gun on a plane but not water thru the checkpoint. |
Originally Posted by bocastephen
(Post 7910406)
How about some accountability on the part of the asinine screeners who got this situation escalated in the first place.
It's simple - woman shows up with baby, has small cup of water (which she offers to drink), screener says 'please bring the baby's liquids through in an approved container next time' and sends passenger on her way. Done. No issue. I doubt they added to the incident on their own. Perhaps a screener needs to fill in the blanks here, |
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