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Spiff ...there may very well be serious reprisals against those who shamefully harassed and wronged their fellow citizens.
Originally Posted by Wally Bird
(Post 7903843)
Not in our lifetime.
There are four boxes every American can potentially use: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the last I'll let you all figure out. |
Originally Posted by infinityplusone
(Post 7905248)
There are four boxes every American can potentially use: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box and the last I'll let you all figure out.
:D Okay, seriously ... how about, "Pine?" |
Someone explain this. There are cameras covering virtually every square inch of shopping malls, office buildings, even gas stations and streets. I see them in airports all over. High definition, all kinds of detail covered. With the claimed importance of the security checkpoints, aren't there cameras at the checkpoints? If not, why not? If so, why can't this be reviewed. Why aren't the people manning the checkpoints required to be microphoned like cops, with even eye level cameras?
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Originally Posted by PHLflying
(Post 7904958)
The children angle reminds me of something very scary and sad I saw at CMH recently. A mom was going through the line with an approx 4-6 year old son. ID checker checks mom's ID and BP, looks at child's BP and then stoops down and looks at the child
"What is your name"? |
These abuses of power are disgusting. Some travelers have been literally traumatized by these encounters with TSA. It's disturbing to take someone like the lady in the story, who very possibly has never been in trouble with the law, and subject them to threats of arrest. I'm sure this will stick with her for awhile.
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Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 7905411)
Umm ... given the presence of Spiff and goalie in our little sub-forum I'm gonna freely associate and guess, "Penalty?"
:D Okay, seriously ... how about, "Pine?" |
Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 7903846)
What the heck is "nursery water?" :confused:
BTW, I like how the story is dramatized. I can't stop crying. :rolleyes: Ask anyone who has traveled with a toddler if they didn't have to follow the exact same rules. |
Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget
(Post 7906139)
Please don't tell me you have witnesses babies being poisoned with tap water. (nursery water does add fluoride though)
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Originally Posted by flyinbob
(Post 7905831)
Why aren't the people manning the checkpoints required to be microphoned like cops, with even eye level cameras?
And before TSA supporters chime in, I realize there are cases where screeners have been disciplined and even terminated. But we do not have access to the data to draw a conclusion that discipline is applied consistently, evenly or correctly. Every station appears to be an entity unto itself, operating under a broad set of guidelines. |
Originally Posted by uva185
(Post 7906454)
Huh? In Maryland (and maybe DC & VA) fluoride is added to the tap water.
Some place don't have flouridated water available. ie well water I've seen a lot of new parents toting this stuff. P.T. Barnum was right. :D |
Originally Posted by infinityplusone
(Post 7905224)
In the story the word "officer" is used a lot, I think this is in reference to the Police Officer.
"At this point, I was detained against my will by the police officer and threatened to be arrested for endangering other passengers with the spilled 3 to 4 ounces of water. ..." So it is not just the inept seemingly power hungry TSA that should be cause for concern... but also the inept seemingly power hungry police as well. "Sgt. Sonya Westbrook to the checkpoint please". |
Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget
(Post 7906139)
...BTW, I like how the story is dramatized. I can't stop crying. :rolleyes:
... Now, I realize that TSA abuse of authortiy is something many here reasonably believe is a regular activitiy for TSA. Even if that's true, let's distinguish between abuses of authority that have at least a hint of a connection with TSA's responsibilities, and this supposed apology demand. There is no way TSA could even begin to defend ordering a passenger to apologize, which is why I doubt it happened. |
Originally Posted by dhuey
(Post 7908422)
The line about being "ordered to apologize" for spilling a little water is very suspect. Demanding an apology for anything is something TSA obviously has no power to do.
"Paging Sgt. Wes..." oh, never mind. |
Originally Posted by flyinbob
(Post 7905831)
Someone explain this. There are cameras covering virtually every square inch of shopping malls, office buildings, even gas stations and streets. I see them in airports all over. High definition, all kinds of detail covered. With the claimed importance of the security checkpoints, aren't there cameras at the checkpoints? If not, why not? If so, why can't this be reviewed. Why aren't the people manning the checkpoints required to be microphoned like cops, with even eye level cameras?
see the video of the incident for yourself. |
I've not been able to verify this just yet, but have just gotten word that Monica Emmerson will be on MSNBC tomorrow, 12:30 p.m. Pacific.
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