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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 12:43 pm
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Umm, Metal forks and even some metal knives can pass security. I've carried forks past the TSA lots of time.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by tkey75
Umm, the perpetrators of the 9.11 hijackings were armed only with box cutters. Don't be fooled. It can happen again.
Those box cutters were legal to carry on in September, 2001.


Regarding the fork, I've always found it amusing that the majority of restaurant/airplane knives are dull. The forks, on the other hand, are usually quite sharp and pointy.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by tkey75
Umm, the perpetrators of the 9.11 hijackings were armed only with box cutters. Don't be fooled. It can happen again.
Pilots and flight crews were also taught to cooperate with hijackers, cockpit doors weren't reinforced, pax didn't risk their lives to try to interfere with hijackers, etc.

The threat of a repeat 9/11-style hijacking even if small sharp objects were allowed onboard is remote at best given the (unrelated to screening policies) differences between today and 9/11.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by BamaVol
Of course, the FA gave me, a potentially dangerous passenger, her fork.
Remind me to sit at the far end of the table from you when we meet up for dinner!!
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by tkey75
Umm, the perpetrators of the 9.11 hijackings were armed only with box cutters. Don't be fooled. It can happen again.
Umm, no it can't and I think box cutters need to come off the proscribed items list ASAP.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by aucarol
Remind me to sit at the far end of the table from you when we meet up for dinner!!
LOL.

Give me your fork and no one gets hurt.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by jimrpa
Personally, I don't have a problem with flight crew bringing whatever they want through security. First, if the pilots intend evil, I doubt they'd need any "accessories", since they're in control of the aircraft. As for the FAs - if they intend evil, it doesn't take much creativity to figure out what might be helpful from the galley and/or service carts.

The real problem is that all the "security measures" are nothing more than a "floor show", put on at taxpayer expense, to "impress" the travelling public.
As long as the pilot doesn't drink the beer, no objections here.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jimrpa
Personally, I don't have a problem with flight crew bringing whatever they want through security. First, if the pilots intend evil, I doubt they'd need any "accessories", since they're in control of the aircraft.
"Accessories" taken through security by a pilot may be used by someone else, like in: American Airlines pilot brings in weapon, hands weapon to terrorist, terrorist takes down United flight.

Everybody can be bribed or blackmailed into anything for the right price or with the proper threaths. Pilots and other crew are no exception.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Diabo
"Accessories" taken through security by a pilot may be used by someone else, like in: American Airlines pilot brings in weapon, hands weapon to terrorist, terrorist takes down United flight.

Everybody can be bribed or blackmailed into anything for the right price or with the proper threaths. Pilots and other crew are no exception.
In your rediculous scenario, why wouldn't the pilot just crash the plane himself?
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jello2594
In your rediculous scenario, why wouldn't the pilot just crash the plane himself?
American pilot gives gun to terrorist on United flight.

"Terrorism? NIMBY!"
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Diabo
"Accessories" taken through security by a pilot may be used by someone else, like in: American Airlines pilot brings in weapon, hands weapon to terrorist, terrorist takes down United flight.

Everybody can be bribed or blackmailed into anything for the right price or with the proper threaths. Pilots and other crew are no exception.
Alright... slow down now... That's just paranoia.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by aucarol
Remind me to sit at the far end of the table from you when we meet up for dinner!!
You never heard the joke about the last piece of chicken, have you?
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by DeltaPurser
Alright... slow down now... That's just paranoia.

As far-fetched as it sounds, Diabo is quite correct. The amount of money it would take to "buy" a crew member is well within Al-Qaida and other terrorism groups' budgets.
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Diabo
... American Airlines pilot brings in weapon, hands weapon to terrorist, terrorist takes down United flight...
He'd have to have a pretty d*** good arm for that, wouldnt he?

Just ribbin you ... (I know what you meant)
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Spiff
Umm, no it can't
mmm can i have one of your crystal balls?

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