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Precheck lanes have bins? I've never seen it and I've been yelled at for taking a bin from the other lane to use for my coat.
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Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar
(Post 31038133)
If one is a frequent flyer, one should be in the pre-check line, and to be honest there should not be bins, bowls, or bozos in the line. Empty yer pockets and put your trinkets in your carryon not a bowl. Nothing comes out or is taken off so what does one need a bin for their coat? Just put it on top of your carry on.
Now what is funny are the airports where everything goes into a bin regardless. I think it is funny when I put my bag directly on the belt and they immediately get bent out of shape grab my bag and put a bin under it. |
When I do need to use a bin I will restack. But I can see how other pax, with hands full of reclaimed phones, jewelry, backpacks, etc. and wanting to clear the post-scan scrum area as quickly as possible might not be able to be so helpful.
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Originally Posted by FlyingUnderTheRadar
(Post 31038133)
If one is a frequent flyer, one should be in the pre-check line, and to be honest there should not be bins, bowls, or bozos in the line. Empty yer pockets and put your trinkets in your carryon not a bowl. Nothing comes out or is taken off so what does one need a bin for their coat? Just put it on top of your carry on.
Now what is funny are the airports where everything goes into a bin regardless. I think it is funny when I put my bag directly on the belt and they immediately get bent out of shape grab my bag and put a bin under it. But when you use a bin, do you restack it? |
Originally Posted by Gig103
(Post 31039810)
Since my real reply was covered (Get TSA Precheck and skip the bins)...
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Originally Posted by jah718
(Post 31038623)
Don't think the OP said this was necessarily in the US, so pre - check may not be an option.
As to the people saying there should be a person whose job it is to put your bin away, seriously?! Just pick up the bin and put it at the end, it is literally the easiest thing to do. This type of behaviour always makes me angry in the security line.
Originally Posted by Bluehen1
(Post 31039257)
Yeah, except that everything goes into a bin when you've got the automated lines including Pre-Check in Terminal C at EWR.
Originally Posted by chollie
(Post 31040319)
At some checkpoints, the bin thing actually makes sense - it keeps dangling pack straps from getting caught in the rollers (if any). For a screener, it's probably easier to just put all packs in bins than to check to see if there are dangling straps. That same screener will (or should) be eyeing the pax-loaded bins as they go through to make sure there's nothing to dangle and snag in the rollers.
Originally Posted by rickg523
(Post 31040378)
Okay, you object to the use of key and watch bowls in Pre.
But when you use a bin, do you restack it? |
Not my job.
Also, typically there seems to be plenty of staff around to do this. |
Lets get real. Restacking the bins? After being selected for secondary screening, striping half my clothes off, receiving a standing full body massage, and then having my carryon rescreened (twice). If it offends the nice tsa person I'm all for it.
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It's not my job to stack bins, so I leave them where they are when I get my items out of them.
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I'm seeing increased security line automation, with a new belt system which moves the used trays back under the in use trays, and then pops them up for loading. There signs saying to not stack the trays at the end, as there is an auto-loader that I guess looks into the first tray into the recycle bin and will stop if there is something in it. In fact I've heard TSA barkers getting quite annoyed when people stacked their own trays. Otherwise, I'm generally with the OP, just out of courtesy to my fellow pax.
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I can rarely get them to give me a bin, or even a little bowl, in pre. They are really big on this whole "your bag is your bin" idea. Extremely annoying since I often only have a clamshell where you have to open the whole thing to get anything in or out. A bowl would be an order of magnitude faster. It's clearly not to speed anything up; I think they are just too lazy to pick up the empty bowls on the other end.
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Originally Posted by Global321
(Post 31045680)
Originally Posted by MojaveFlyer
(Post 31046301)
I'm seeing increased security line automation, with a new belt system which moves the used trays back under the in use trays, and then pops them up for loading. There signs saying to not stack the trays at the end, as there is an auto-loader that I guess looks into the first tray into the recycle bin and will stop if there is something in it. In fact I've heard TSA barkers getting quite annoyed when people stacked their own trays. Otherwise, I'm generally with the OP, just out of courtesy to my fellow pax.
Here is an example of an automatised line. From the recent time it has been implemented in Prague for EU flights, FF can even dodge the unfamiliar pax when preparing for X-ray as people send their tray once ready. Then, the trays collections airside is also automatic when a sensor identify the last one as empty, and sent them back lanside https://www.prg.aero/en/prague-airpo...2#lg=1&slide=1 While these security lanes are very efficient, I still have to face the zealous more-junior-than-I-am screeners before X-ray (I am on my mid-twenties), who seem not to get used to mind how « TSA-knowledgeable » are the pax having a Golden / Platinum bragtag perfectly plopping on their carry-ons handles |
TSA whining
I pay for the TSA each and every time I go through a checkpoint. (2 -3 times a week) I don't consider hauling bins around to be my role. TSA can appoint a bin stacker or install a truly automated system that moves the bins back to the other side.
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I generally do collect my and other empty trays, but...
Originally Posted by e30st
(Post 31037592)
Whenever I go through security screenings, around 90% of passengers don't collect the trays and just leave it there, blocking others from getting back their stuffs.
And no, its not just a general stupidity issue, or a problem of low-educated people. Many bizclass flyer, frequent flyers with bragtags on their hand luggage also leave their trays behind. Any real frequent flyer shall know that if you put your damn tray back where it belongs, it speeds up security. And still, most of the flyers don't do it. Last time, when I saw a guy (around my age range, I didn't want to be unpolite with older folks), who left his tray there, I just kindly asked him: "excuse me sir, is this your first time ever flying?" (it was a priority lane for business class and status passengers, so obviously he was flying regurarly) So he replied with pride and confidence: "Ehh, no, I fly intercontinental at least twice a month" I replied "Then why do you leave your trays behind, slowing down security screenings?" He got the point, smiled at me, and collected his trays. Let me know if I was an ....... here, the whole conversation had some humour within it, I also was quite silent, so I didn't humiliate him in front of other passengers. It really drives me crazy that at many airports the bottleneck is actually the lack of tray-collecting. If everyone would do it, time could be reduced by 10-15%. What do you guys think? |
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