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Old Jul 24, 2019, 6:36 am
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Originally Posted by chollie
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It isn't meant to enhance security. It is a performance for the pax and an effort to keep screeners' minds on their jobs.

The problem is that the screeners don't really think there's a threat, so they don't take it seriously. They get bored and focus on catching all water bottles because that's easier than staying alert an looking for 'something' that might actually be a threat.
Agree. Comes off as a “check the block” process. At the end of their shift TSA personnel can say “I processed x number of additional searches.” without any accountability of cause for why or how the search was conducted.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 7:35 am
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Originally Posted by halls120
When you get to a TSA Checkpoint, just this "Potemkin Village" and you'll be in the correct frame of mind.
The TSA’s ways are indeed the “security” equivalent of a Potemkin Village, but the scope and scale of what DHS/CBP/TSA does makes for more than a Potemkin Village, it makes for a Potemkin Country at airports across the country and even beyond, since TSA do this “pick your own hassle/pick who gets hassled” thing for those with phones or without, when the TSA wants it.

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Old Jul 24, 2019, 8:58 am
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Originally Posted by Randyk47


Agree. Comes off as a “check the block” process. At the end of their shift TSA personnel can say “I processed x number of additional searches.” without any accountability of cause for why or how the search was conducted.
Screeners/shifts have quotas to meet; it's the quantity not the quality that counts.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 10:57 am
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Chronic lack of oversight - what the heck are all those STSOs and LTSOs paid to do?

It's one thing to demand quotas from employees who operate out of sight of management - police, for example. The quotas were management's only way to force a cop to prove s/he did something, even though statistically there would be days when there was nothing happening on the cop's beat.

But at checkpoints, there shouldn't be the need for quotas because there are plenty of ever-present STSOs and LTSOs who should be keeping an eye on things.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by Romelle
I don't have a cell phone. Can afford one. Can see, read, hear, poke screen and tote one. Chose not to have one. Manage quite nicely without.
Cool.. That’s very unusual in 2019.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 1:35 pm
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One more thing. When I told the TSA screener that my child had no cell phone, she believed me! Without even checking!

As it happens, I wasn't lying but the screener had no way of knowing that.

Worse still, I'm inclined to think that their internal procedures (such as they are) didn't require a check either.
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