US CBP checkpoint on Canadian soil
Oct 19, 2016, 5:52 pm
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US CBP checkpoint on Canadian soil
After witnessing an elderly man be manhandled at the Vancouver train station by US CBP officers a few weeks ago it got me thinking. Under what authority does the US CBP operate on foreign soil? Do they have the same power as they would in the US? While I understand that embassies receive special treatment, as they're technically treated as homeland, I don't think the same applies to an office in a train depot. Can you be charged with violating US law at one of these check points, or do they simply turn you over to the Canadian authorities?
Oct 19, 2016, 7:42 pm
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Preclearance Act.
Soon to be replaced by Bill C-23, section 61 of which will permit US officers to carry firearms while in Canada. Section 62 is also problematic, in my opinion.
Soon to be replaced by Bill C-23, section 61 of which will permit US officers to carry firearms while in Canada. Section 62 is also problematic, in my opinion.
Oct 20, 2016, 4:39 am
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The text of the bill is really worth reading to know what the US can and will be allowed to do in Canada under Canadian law.
It's too bad that Canada ends up being more and more of a US kiss-up on "security".
It's too bad that Canada ends up being more and more of a US kiss-up on "security".
Oct 20, 2016, 10:23 am
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Preclearance Act.
Soon to be replaced by Bill C-23, section 61 of which will permit US officers to carry firearms while in Canada. Section 62 is also problematic, in my opinion.
Soon to be replaced by Bill C-23, section 61 of which will permit US officers to carry firearms while in Canada. Section 62 is also problematic, in my opinion.
Last edited by Section 107; Oct 20, 2016 at 11:41 am
Oct 20, 2016, 1:46 pm
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Why do you find it problematic? The section is saying if a preclearance officer is being prosecuted under Canadian law for action/inaction in the course of performing his/her duties as a preclearance officer, Canada will stop prosecuting if USG says it will prosecute the individual under its own laws. If USG does not/will not prosecute then Canada may continue prosecuting the individual. Canada gets the same privileges for its preclearance officers operating in the US.
Just goes to show it's a way to create an escape route when things go wrong?
Oct 20, 2016, 5:01 pm
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Canada does some customs preclearance in the US, but in terms of prexlearance for Canada-bound passengers on commercially-scheduled common carrier flights? It doesn't happen, because it can't happen unless a US airport invites the arrangement and provides acceptable terms to the operating carrier(s).
Oct 20, 2016, 5:11 pm
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Canada does some customs preclearance in the US, but in terms of prexlearance for Canada-bound passengers on commercially-scheduled common carrier flights? It doesn't happen, because it can't happen unless a US airport invites the arrangement and provides acceptable terms to the operating carrier(s).
Oct 21, 2016, 2:02 am
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I know some were sent for some sort of cargo preclearance work from a state east of the Mississippi. I don't recall which state, the precise nature of the work and for how long they were assigned to be in the US for work, but I'll come back here to provide the details if I happen to be sent something of a published nature indicating what took place.
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Why do you find it problematic? The section is saying if a preclearance officer is being prosecuted under Canadian law for action/inaction in the course of performing his/her duties as a preclearance officer, Canada will stop prosecuting if USG says it will prosecute the individual under its own laws. If USG does not/will not prosecute then Canada may continue prosecuting the individual. Canada gets the same privileges for its preclearance officers operating in the US.
Oct 21, 2016, 7:36 am
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There are also a few Canadians stationed in the US doing liaison for intelligence/security and other inter-agency work.
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Unfortunately, despite concerns like these:
The Government Is Spreading Falsehoods About The Preclearance Act
The Government Is Spreading Falsehoods About The Preclearance Act
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The US is allowing the UK Border Force into Miami for Cayman Islands Preclearance.