10 years since the liquid ban went into effect
#46
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Agree. Just because an airline/airport/TSA employee was subjected to some level of background check at one time doesn't mean they should then be exempt from screening. If a passenger has been checked and approved for GE or Pre they still have to be screened every time, and so should employees.
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#49
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Not all airline companies with flight attendants have complied with requirements for making their FAs eligible - therefore their FAs may not use the KCM checkpoints. And similar to pilots, some FAs might not be eligible to fly for disciplinary, medical or behavior reasons, among others).
"Good Standing" is an amorphous term in this context - some employees might be in no danger of being terminated or put on probation or other adverse action by the employer but the employer for a number of reasons might still not put the employee in the KCM database to allow use of the KCM checkpoint.
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Dang, we agree with each other! Marking my calendar.
#51
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There's quite a few in Africa that don't care either. In Livingstone (Zambia) you go through security before bag drop, so there's no difference between your checked bag and carry on, and nobody cares about liquids.
#52
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Cuban airports don't care either - I've taken large bottles of rum (mmm...Cuban rum) in my carryon Hopefully that won't change now that they have flights to the US.
#53
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From my last flight (departing LGW): presented 2 cartons of juice as medical. Provided them w/ neurologist's letter, signed w/ contact phone #s, explaining juice is medically necessary for me. (This is required by EU law, but not by US law, so I do provide it in EU, but not in US.)
Response: "Can you show us some other documentation? Anyone could have written this." ><
I told him to feel free to call my neurologist to confirm, and explained that I do know the law, it is perfectly legal, he's welcome to screen it, and I've done it dozens of times. He eventually relented.
Still, it was a PITA and we were in a rush. (In airport wheelchair; traffic delays caused me to arrive later than desired; flight had theoretically started boarding.)
Anyone less aggressive & prepared than me would probably have backed down.
And all for a couple cartons of unopened, bog-standard Sainsbury's juice / smoothies no sane person would think is possibly WEI, which took them less than minute to screen once they agreed to screen it. Oy gevalt.
Response: "Can you show us some other documentation? Anyone could have written this." ><
I told him to feel free to call my neurologist to confirm, and explained that I do know the law, it is perfectly legal, he's welcome to screen it, and I've done it dozens of times. He eventually relented.
Still, it was a PITA and we were in a rush. (In airport wheelchair; traffic delays caused me to arrive later than desired; flight had theoretically started boarding.)
Anyone less aggressive & prepared than me would probably have backed down.
And all for a couple cartons of unopened, bog-standard Sainsbury's juice / smoothies no sane person would think is possibly WEI, which took them less than minute to screen once they agreed to screen it. Oy gevalt.
#54
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From my last flight (departing LGW): presented 2 cartons of juice as medical. Provided them w/ neurologist's letter, signed w/ contact phone #s, explaining juice is medically necessary for me. (This is required by EU law, but not by US law, so I do provide it in EU, but not in US.)
Response: "Can you show us some other documentation? Anyone could have written this." ><
I told him to feel free to call my neurologist to confirm, and explained that I do know the law, it is perfectly legal, he's welcome to screen it, and I've done it dozens of times. He eventually relented.
Still, it was a PITA and we were in a rush. (In airport wheelchair; traffic delays caused me to arrive later than desired; flight had theoretically started boarding.)
Anyone less aggressive & prepared than me would probably have backed down.
And all for a couple cartons of unopened, bog-standard Sainsbury's juice / smoothies no sane person would think is possibly WEI, which took them less than minute to screen once they agreed to screen it. Oy gevalt.
Response: "Can you show us some other documentation? Anyone could have written this." ><
I told him to feel free to call my neurologist to confirm, and explained that I do know the law, it is perfectly legal, he's welcome to screen it, and I've done it dozens of times. He eventually relented.
Still, it was a PITA and we were in a rush. (In airport wheelchair; traffic delays caused me to arrive later than desired; flight had theoretically started boarding.)
Anyone less aggressive & prepared than me would probably have backed down.
And all for a couple cartons of unopened, bog-standard Sainsbury's juice / smoothies no sane person would think is possibly WEI, which took them less than minute to screen once they agreed to screen it. Oy gevalt.
#55
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Made worse by the fact that I've been mute for about three days now. (Bad throat infection on top of the usual causes. Hurts to even swallow, let alone use my voice.)
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#58
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More people should give that speech TSA employees and private screeners. TSA employees have zero business trying to determine what amount of medical liquids a person should be allowed.
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TSA also should not be in the business of deciding which non-liquid medicines are permitted and which are not. There is no acceptable reason, not even 'screener discretion', for confiscating a pax's nitro pills.
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