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Automatic TSA Pre Check Assessments
In the discussion of long TSA Security Lines I find it interesting that TSA claims "Managed Inclusion" has ended but are using Canines to move people to expedited screening. Also note how TSA is pushing hard for people to pony up their $85 per head to sign up for Pre Check.
Apparently Pre Check Expedited Screening is TSA's answer to long security lines, not modifying wasteful time consuming procedures and processes that offer little security benefit. I was unaware of the Automatic TSA Pre Check Assessments but have personally benefited from this selection method several times. It is this method that I believe TSA should use for the majority of Expedited Screening assignments. I also think that there is sufficient information available to TSA that a persons Risk Level can be determined when a ticket is purchased. http://www.gao.gov/assets/680/677714.pdf TSA uses the following methods to assess whether a passenger is low risk and therefore eligible for expedited screening. • Approved TSA Pre ® lists of known travelers—These lists are comprised of individuals whom TSA has determined to be low risk by virtue of their membership in a specific group, such as active duty military members, or based on group vetting requirements, or if approved through the TSA Pre® Application Program. • Automated TSA Pre ® risk assessments of all passengers— Using these assessments, TSA assigns passengers scores based upon information available to TSA to identify low risk passengers eligible for expedited screening for a specific flight prior to the passengers’ arrival at the airport. • Real-time threat assessments through Managed Inclusion— These assessments use several layers of security, including procedures that randomly select passengers for expedited screening, behavior detection officers who observe passengers to identify highrisk behaviors, and passenger screening canine teams to help ensure that passengers selected for expedited screening have not handled explosive material. TSA developed Managed Inclusion as a tool to improve the efficiency of dedicated TSA Pre ® screening lanes. |
However, we have yet to hear of anyone being moved to "expedited screening" after being sniffed.
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Flew out of SEA this afternoon, got pre on my boarding pass. I have not signed up for it. Glad to get it because the lines were long everywhere else. They did have poochies sniffing pre and non pre alike though.
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Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 26760925)
Flew out of SEA this afternoon, got pre on my boarding pass. I have not signed up for it. Glad to get it because the lines were long everywhere else. They did have poochies sniffing pre and non pre alike though.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26760961)
Were the dogs being used in a manner that expedited the screening process for those people sniffed?
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Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 26761132)
Not that I could tell. They were in a roped off area inside the checkpoint entrance. Oh, and they did have a noisy fat troll literally shrieking at everyone to keep moving and don't pet the pooch. Extremely offensive. Go get the Brits to teach you how to do this politely.
I feel for that poor dog's ears. |
Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 26761132)
Not that I could tell. They were in a roped off area inside the checkpoint entrance. Oh, and they did have a noisy fat troll literally shrieking at everyone to keep moving and don't pet the pooch. Extremely offensive. Go get the Brits to teach you how to do this politely.
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Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 26761132)
Not that I could tell. They were in a roped off area inside the checkpoint entrance. Oh, and they did have a noisy fat troll literally shrieking at everyone to keep moving and don't pet the pooch. Extremely offensive. Go get the Brits to teach you how to do this politely.
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On AskTSA, there is a tweet from a woman wondering why her 13 yr. old daughter got PreCheck and she didn't. She, of course, got a non-answer from TSA, alluding to pre-flight assessment.
Which makes me ask: what kind of a background check can be done on a 13 year old child in the first place? If the child committed some kind of a crime, there would be no record of it as juvenile records are normally sealed. |
Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 26763764)
On AskTSA, there is a tweet from a woman wondering why her 13 yr. old daughter got PreCheck and she didn't. She, of course, got a non-answer from TSA, alluding to pre-flight assessment.
Which makes me ask: what kind of a background check can be done on a 13 year old child in the first place? If the child committed some kind of a crime, there would be no record of it as juvenile records are normally sealed. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 26762394)
At LHR, the screeners bark much like the TSA. The days of the UK being a good example of how to treat passengers at screening checkpoints are sort of gone if using the most famous British airport as an example.
I do have much worse memories of T5 consistently being bad, more so in transfer security. The budget airports (stansted, luton and the like) are also quite noisy and grumpy. I do find ZRH rather polite (it's done by the local police, who also conduct border processing). They will calmly double-check that you've removed your laptop, and will give you an assessment of shoes/belts if requested (I've flown in hiking boots before, plus my belt has issues in the WTMD). They'll even explain that you can take your swiss-army knife through, but that you should probably check it when returning since other countries might not permit it in carry-ons. |
Myself (have GE) and friend (nothing - not even FF status) traveling on same PNR. He received PreCheck on both the outbound and return with me.
So managed inclusion is still alive. |
Originally Posted by SNA_Flyer
(Post 26773835)
Myself (have GE) and friend (nothing - not even FF status) traveling on same PNR. He received PreCheck on both the outbound and return with me.
So managed inclusion is still alive. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 26773900)
If Pre was printed on the ticket that is Automated Pre Check Risk Assessment not Managed Inclusion.
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Originally Posted by petaluma1
(Post 26774207)
It might not be Managed Inclusion according to the world of the TSA but it is managed inclusion nonetheless. TSA is just going about it in a different way to satisfy their critics.
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