TSA Screener Examining Reading Materials
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Checked bags are scanned electronically and don't get inspected unless the scanner does not like something in the bag. Then it comes down to the baggage inspection station and gets opened. The alarm item is inspected and returned to the bag unless it is hazardous material. The notice of inspection is inserted in the bag and the whole process is video recorded. IF something is missing from your bag you can contact TSA with the baggage tag number and they can tell you if the bag was sent to inspection, they also know who opened the bag regardless of whether there is a video of it. Locks get lost. When there are several hundred bags that are coming down for inspection it can be a challenge to keep up with the flow and make sure that the lock gets put back on the bag.
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Checked bags are scanned electronically and don't get inspected unless the scanner does not like something in the bag. Then it comes down to the baggage inspection station and gets opened. The alarm item is inspected and returned to the bag unless it is hazardous material. The notice of inspection is inserted in the bag and the whole process is video recorded. IF something is missing from your bag you can contact TSA with the baggage tag number and they can tell you if the bag was sent to inspection, they also know who opened the bag regardless of whether there is a video of it. Locks get lost. When there are several hundred bags that are coming down for inspection it can be a challenge to keep up with the flow and make sure that the lock gets put back on the bag.
Would be logical to have something like this printed directly on the inspection notice, or at least on the website.
(I'm sure if someone raise this issue with someone at TSA, "because eyecue posted it" isn't going to mean much!)
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eyecue's a big boy and can take care of himself, but I have to speak out.
We've had TSOs post false and misleading information here before. We've had TSOs post here solely for the purpose of antagonizing and insulting.
Someone may be able to prove me wrong, but to the best of my recollection, eyecue has never claimed that the way the hidden rules are implemented at DEN is the same way at every airport - unlike what some TSOs post.
He has described what should happen, how the process should work, at DEN. Unless he's actually worked in other airports or knows someone very trustworthy who does, he can't say what goes on elsewhere - and he doesn't.
If you think I'm being biased towards eyecue, feel free to stalk my posts. I have disagreed with him on more than one occasion (SSI rules the public can't view about 'dual purpose assistive devices', aka, 'cool cane that looks like a light saber') and won't hesitate to do so in the future if I disagree with him.
JMHO.
That said, it is inexcusable that TSA doesn't bother to put locks bag on the bags. If a TSO doesn't relock my bag and a baggage handler subsequently opens it and steals from me, as far as I am concerned, TSA is responsible for leaving my bag unlocked.
I either carry bags with metal zippers or I secure the zip pulls so they can't slide - the baggage handler 'pen in the zipper' trick doesn't work with my bags unless TSA has removed the lock from my bag.
We've had TSOs post false and misleading information here before. We've had TSOs post here solely for the purpose of antagonizing and insulting.
Someone may be able to prove me wrong, but to the best of my recollection, eyecue has never claimed that the way the hidden rules are implemented at DEN is the same way at every airport - unlike what some TSOs post.
He has described what should happen, how the process should work, at DEN. Unless he's actually worked in other airports or knows someone very trustworthy who does, he can't say what goes on elsewhere - and he doesn't.
If you think I'm being biased towards eyecue, feel free to stalk my posts. I have disagreed with him on more than one occasion (SSI rules the public can't view about 'dual purpose assistive devices', aka, 'cool cane that looks like a light saber') and won't hesitate to do so in the future if I disagree with him.
JMHO.
That said, it is inexcusable that TSA doesn't bother to put locks bag on the bags. If a TSO doesn't relock my bag and a baggage handler subsequently opens it and steals from me, as far as I am concerned, TSA is responsible for leaving my bag unlocked.
I either carry bags with metal zippers or I secure the zip pulls so they can't slide - the baggage handler 'pen in the zipper' trick doesn't work with my bags unless TSA has removed the lock from my bag.
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This page says nothing:
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-support/claims
And instead, tells one to complete this form:
https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fi...-08-15-508.pdf
knowing full well it is very intimidating and probably makes 95% of claimants give up before they start.
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It would be nice if AskTSA told this to people who complain about missing articles and damaged bags, especially bags without notes in them.
This page says nothing:
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-support/claims
And instead, tells one to complete this form:
https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fi...-08-15-508.pdf
knowing full well it is very intimidating and probably makes 95% of claimants give up before they start.
This page says nothing:
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-support/claims
And instead, tells one to complete this form:
https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fi...-08-15-508.pdf
knowing full well it is very intimidating and probably makes 95% of claimants give up before they start.
Every airport and checkpoint and screener operates according to their own personal, unpublished (or unavailable to the public) rules.
I wonder about this:
... a 3-week delay for mail sent to Federal facilities due to screening requirement
What special form of 'screening' is required that takes three weeks? Are the letters being xrayed and swabbed individually?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by petaluma1
It would be nice if AskTSA told this to people who complain about missing articles and damaged bags, especially bags without notes in them.
This page says nothing:
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-support/claims
And instead, tells one to complete this form:
https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fi...-08-15-508.pdf
knowing full well it is very intimidating and probably makes 95% of claimants give up before they start.
I wonder about this:
Quote:
... a 3-week delay for mail sent to Federal facilities due to screening requirement
I send a claim form in an envelope and it takes three weeks to 'screen' it?
What special form of 'screening' is required?
Originally Posted by petaluma1
It would be nice if AskTSA told this to people who complain about missing articles and damaged bags, especially bags without notes in them.
This page says nothing:
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/passenger-support/claims
And instead, tells one to complete this form:
https://www.tsa.gov/sites/default/fi...-08-15-508.pdf
knowing full well it is very intimidating and probably makes 95% of claimants give up before they start.
I wonder about this:
Quote:
... a 3-week delay for mail sent to Federal facilities due to screening requirement
I send a claim form in an envelope and it takes three weeks to 'screen' it?
What special form of 'screening' is required?
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Is the cost exorbitant? Maybe. Is it an out and out "corrupt" boondoggle (al la TSA)? Most assuredly not.
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I mean 'boondoggle' in the sense of someone got an exorbitantly priced government contract to provide the necessary materials and services, if the process wasn't outright outsourced (like so many background checks have been).
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For what it is worth, the image is an AP file picture that has nothing to do with the subject of the article (TSA Audit Discovers Over 70 Air Transport Hires With Terrorism Ties). There is no information about when and where this photo was taken.
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For what it is worth, the image is an AP file picture that has nothing to do with the subject of the article (TSA Audit Discovers Over 70 Air Transport Hires With Terrorism Ties). There is no information about when and where this photo was taken.
I would have thought that the best way to screen a magazine for hidden threats would be to hold it upside down while leafing through it. That way, the screener focuses on threats without getting distracted perusing content.
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We don't confiscate items in baggage other than HAZMAT items, and we have the airlines actually confiscate it not us. Then we put a HAZMAT love note in the bag saying: "You had HAZMAT. It's not allowed, if you want it back talk to your airline. And a link to the FAA hazmat website."
"Language barriers" = an ongoing struggle for the TSA.
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What happens to all the non-hazmat items that do not get put back in the bag?
For example, when I pick up my bag, the lock is missing again, there's a love note inside and my favorite fleece is gone. If my fleece wasn't stolen, then I'm assuming the TSO tossing my bag closed the bag and left my fleece out.
Does the TSO stick my fleece into someone else's bag or just toss it in with legitimate 'hazmat' stuff?
For example, when I pick up my bag, the lock is missing again, there's a love note inside and my favorite fleece is gone. If my fleece wasn't stolen, then I'm assuming the TSO tossing my bag closed the bag and left my fleece out.
Does the TSO stick my fleece into someone else's bag or just toss it in with legitimate 'hazmat' stuff?
My checked bags have been opened and searched dozens of times; however, I have only ever found a notice of inspection once.
My wife experienced a significant problem due to a TSA-searched bag. She was told by a TSA suit in ORD that baggage inspection is NOT video recorded, and was politely invited to go away and stop bothering him.
Yeah, they won't tell you who opened it, or why, or why they repacked it so sloppily that carefully, securely packed items were damaged/lost. AND there won't be a video of it.
Let me fix that for you: Locks get cut off and tossed.
My wife experienced a significant problem due to a TSA-searched bag. She was told by a TSA suit in ORD that baggage inspection is NOT video recorded, and was politely invited to go away and stop bothering him.
Yeah, they won't tell you who opened it, or why, or why they repacked it so sloppily that carefully, securely packed items were damaged/lost. AND there won't be a video of it.
Let me fix that for you: Locks get cut off and tossed.
Particularly for the bolded part, which is news to me, is there anywhere where this process is officially and publicly posted? And if not, WHY NOT?
Would be logical to have something like this printed directly on the inspection notice, or at least on the website.
(I'm sure if someone raise this issue with someone at TSA, "because eyecue posted it" isn't going to mean much!)
Would be logical to have something like this printed directly on the inspection notice, or at least on the website.
(I'm sure if someone raise this issue with someone at TSA, "because eyecue posted it" isn't going to mean much!)
Or a dress folded flat in the middle of a stack of clothes "fell out" and wasn't noticed? Pull the other one..
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