Changes coming to PreCheck????
Mar 1, 2016 | 7:05 pm
#31
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: where the chile is hot
Programs: AA,RR,NW,Delta ,UA,CO
Posts: 48,909
If Congress critters get a free pass, then why not governors? Judges? Cops?
Ordinary people with extremely high security clearances, regularly updated, do not qualify for a free pass based on their extensive government background checks. They still have to pony up the $ and get TSA's less-detailed background check.
Sounds to me like CYA language to allow a few people in TSA HQ an unquestioned an unmonitored exemption from the rules.
Mar 1, 2016 | 7:24 pm
#32
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Paris, France
Programs: HHonors, Marriott Rewards, AAdvantage
Posts: 127
If Congress critters get a free pass, then why not governors? Judges? Cops?
Ordinary people with extremely high security clearances, regularly updated, do not qualify for a free pass based on their extensive government background checks. They still have to pony up the $ and get TSA's less-detailed background check.
Sounds to me like CYA language to allow a few people in TSA HQ an unquestioned an unmonitored exemption from the rules.
Ordinary people with extremely high security clearances, regularly updated, do not qualify for a free pass based on their extensive government background checks. They still have to pony up the $ and get TSA's less-detailed background check.
Sounds to me like CYA language to allow a few people in TSA HQ an unquestioned an unmonitored exemption from the rules.
Mar 1, 2016 | 8:12 pm
#33
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 11,667
They do if they are actual DOD employees; if contractors, then no. Again, see PDF above.
Mar 2, 2016 | 5:07 am
#34
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Gold, Hertz PC, National Exec
Posts: 6,736
(3) and (b) are particularly interesting.
The unnamed 'Administrator' can issue known traveler numbers to members of a 'population designated by the Administrator as known and low-risk' - with no requirement for biographic or biometric information, ie, no background check of any sort.
Seriously? An unnamed administrator can hand out KTNs to anyone he has designated 'low risk' without a background check?
The unnamed 'Administrator' can issue known traveler numbers to members of a 'population designated by the Administrator as known and low-risk' - with no requirement for biographic or biometric information, ie, no background check of any sort.
Seriously? An unnamed administrator can hand out KTNs to anyone he has designated 'low risk' without a background check?
Mar 2, 2016 | 7:56 am
#35
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,077
(3) and (b) are particularly interesting.
The unnamed 'Administrator' can issue known traveler numbers to members of a 'population designated by the Administrator as known and low-risk' - with no requirement for biographic or biometric information, ie, no background check of any sort.
Seriously? An unnamed administrator can hand out KTNs to anyone he has designated 'low risk' without a background check?
Did he start with his immediate family and circle of friends?
(b) "In carrying out subsection (a), the Administrator shall ensure that expedited airport security screening remains available to passengers at or above the level that exists on the day before the date of the enactment of this Act."
That doesn't seem to line up with airports that offer Pre less and less often, but it's not like HQ tells FSDs what to do anyway.
Well, it may tell them what to do, but it doesn't enforce it.
The unnamed 'Administrator' can issue known traveler numbers to members of a 'population designated by the Administrator as known and low-risk' - with no requirement for biographic or biometric information, ie, no background check of any sort.
Seriously? An unnamed administrator can hand out KTNs to anyone he has designated 'low risk' without a background check?
Did he start with his immediate family and circle of friends?
(b) "In carrying out subsection (a), the Administrator shall ensure that expedited airport security screening remains available to passengers at or above the level that exists on the day before the date of the enactment of this Act."
That doesn't seem to line up with airports that offer Pre less and less often, but it's not like HQ tells FSDs what to do anyway.
Well, it may tell them what to do, but it doesn't enforce it.
Mar 2, 2016 | 8:02 am
#36
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,077
If Congress critters get a free pass, then why not governors? Judges? Cops?
Ordinary people with extremely high security clearances, regularly updated, do not qualify for a free pass based on their extensive government background checks. They still have to pony up the $ and get TSA's less-detailed background check.
Sounds to me like CYA language to allow a few people in TSA HQ an unquestioned an unmonitored exemption from the rules.
Ordinary people with extremely high security clearances, regularly updated, do not qualify for a free pass based on their extensive government background checks. They still have to pony up the $ and get TSA's less-detailed background check.
Sounds to me like CYA language to allow a few people in TSA HQ an unquestioned an unmonitored exemption from the rules.
Mar 2, 2016 | 9:46 am
#37
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: where the chile is hot
Programs: AA,RR,NW,Delta ,UA,CO
Posts: 48,909
I imagine that when Rep. Chaffetz complained about his young daughters being separated from his wife and all being given retaliatory private room gropes because they opted out, Pistole immediately made sure that wife and daughters had KTNs. Problem solved, Chaffetz is happy.
Mar 4, 2016 | 10:18 am
#38
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 729
(3) A passenger who did not voluntarily submit biographic and biometric information for a security risk assessment but is a member of a population designated by the Administrator as known and low-risk and who may be issued a unique, known traveler number by the Administrator determining that such passenger is a member of a category of travelers designated by the Administrator as known and low-risk.
Mar 4, 2016 | 10:39 am
#39
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 30,963
Anyone who has flown in recent years is already well known to TSA. Names are checked against various Watch Lists and other law enforcement databases when purchasing a ticket. TSA could easily include those people who routinely travel by air into Pre-Check rolls without doing anything of substance. But TSA wouldn't be able to justify its existence if they did.
Last edited by Boggie Dog; Mar 4, 2016 at 1:45 pm
Mar 4, 2016 | 1:17 pm
#40
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: where the chile is hot
Programs: AA,RR,NW,Delta ,UA,CO
Posts: 48,909