VWP enhancements
#136



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The officer's response was to ask me question 5
My answer to question 5 was - two days
The officer's response was to ask me question 6
#137
Join Date: Mar 2015
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I've just completed my on-line application form a US visa (what a process that is!)
I noticed in passing that Libya, Somalia and Yemen are now 'on the list'
So if you've been to any of those countries since March 1, 2011 then expect to have your ESTA cancelled.
Interestingly - "At this time, the restriction on Visa Waiver Program travel will not apply to dual nationals of these three countries." Unlike dual nationals of Iran, Iraq, Libya and Sudan.
Government announcement here - https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/...waiver-program
I noticed in passing that Libya, Somalia and Yemen are now 'on the list'
So if you've been to any of those countries since March 1, 2011 then expect to have your ESTA cancelled.
Interestingly - "At this time, the restriction on Visa Waiver Program travel will not apply to dual nationals of these three countries." Unlike dual nationals of Iran, Iraq, Libya and Sudan.
Government announcement here - https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/...waiver-program
Whereas both WASPS and Blacks have an unspoken agreement to scrutinize Mediterranean/Middle Eastern looking people at airports! Sad but true, half of my uncomfortable TSA situations with them questioning my ethnicity (too tall and a little bit lighter than what a Hispanic is suppose to look like in their view) and why I am not very talkative (I am shy with strangers) are from TSA screeners of African descent. One in particular was quite upset that my luggage was not scrutinize when boarding my flight from NRT to ORD.
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#138
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Just a data point for you all
I had my interview in Australia for a US Visa on Tuesday. I was asked six questions in total:
I had my interview in Australia for a US Visa on Tuesday. I was asked six questions in total:
- When do you intend visiting the US next?
- For what purpose?
- When did you visit Sudan?
- For what purpose?
- How long were you in the country
- What parts of the country did you visit?
#139
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The joke of this whole thing is that if you've actually ever been to Iran it is a surprisingly not religious country. I was on a tour around midday day prayer at a major mosque in Shiraz and there were few people there. Much more of a risk of radicalisation with a visit to the KSA, but of course their our "Friends" so you know the whole actual fanatically religious thing doesn't matter...
Cheers
Howie
Cheers
Howie
#140



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Just a data point for you all
I had my interview in Australia for a US Visa on Tuesday. I was asked six questions in total:
I had my interview in Australia for a US Visa on Tuesday. I was asked six questions in total:
- When do you intend visiting the US next?
- For what purpose?
- When did you visit Sudan?
- For what purpose?
- How long were you in the country
- What parts of the country did you visit?
- Quite painless
- Was directed to use a kiosk and scan my visa page (not my passport information page)\
- The machine gave me a docket directing me to a cbp oficer (presumably because this was my first entry on my new passport)
- cbp officer took my photo, scanned my fingerprints
- also asked a few questions - none concerning the 'evil' country I had visited (Sudan)
So all in all, it was an easy experience and no much different from a normal 'esta' entry
#141
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Saw an ESTA user arrive tonight at ORD who had been to Iran in recent years. Off with an escort he went, so not yet sure if he will be sent packing back to Europe or some adjustment will be made.
#142




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Update on my first entry to the US using my new visa
So all in all, it was an easy experience and no much different from a normal 'esta' entry
- Quite painless
- Was directed to use a kiosk and scan my visa page (not my passport information page)\
- The machine gave me a docket directing me to a cbp oficer (presumably because this was my first entry on my new passport)
- cbp officer took my photo, scanned my fingerprints
- also asked a few questions - none concerning the 'evil' country I had visited (Sudan)
So all in all, it was an easy experience and no much different from a normal 'esta' entry
#143

Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 288
The joke of this whole thing is that if you've actually ever been to Iran it is a surprisingly not religious country. I was on a tour around midday day prayer at a major mosque in Shiraz and there were few people there. Much more of a risk of radicalisation with a visit to the KSA, but of course their our "Friends" so you know the whole actual fanatically religious thing doesn't matter...
Cheers
Howie
Cheers
Howie
#144
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I was in Iran during Ramadan, and have spent a lot of time in the Gulf, where they fanatically enforce laws against eating in public during daylight hours, etc. Except for a handful of hotels, it is impossible to get any food during the day time in Dubai, for example (and Dubai is by FAR the most liberal city in the Gulf region). In Iran, I quickly learned that "closed" restaurants (shades drawn, "closed" sign displayed" would let you in if you knocked, and you would often find more than a handful of people eating. Generally speaking, I found the Iranians liked to keep up the appearance of compliance, whereas the Gulf Arabs are absolutely fanatical about forbidding "un-Islamic" activiities, including things like couples holding hands in public.
#145




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Hardly impossible. The food courts of Dubai shopping malls remain open as usual, just behind screens, although if you want proper Arabian food you'll have to wait until after sunset.
#146
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Moderator's Note: Please let's get back on topic
The topic of this thread is the United States Visa Waiver Program. It is not about Ramadan observance or Islamic countries cultural norms and practices.
Those topics have nothing to do with Travel Safety/Security or Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate.
Please free to discuss those subjects in the Religious Travelers or the various Destinations forums.
Thank you,
TWA884
Travel Safety/Security co-moderator
Those topics have nothing to do with Travel Safety/Security or Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate.
Please free to discuss those subjects in the Religious Travelers or the various Destinations forums.
Thank you,
TWA884
Travel Safety/Security co-moderator

