TSA agent: "I'm sorry, the picture on your GE card isnt acceptable"
Oct 27, 2015, 1:03 pm
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TSA demands a single government-issue photo ID. If they have 'issues' with the IDs other government agencies are producing, they should not be taking it out on me at the checkpoint.
If TSA wants to start demanding that everyone carry at least two pieces of government-issue photo ID in case one of them doesn't meet their standards, then they should be required to document and report every instance when they reject a government-issue ID 'just because'. The pax should have access to that report, as should the agency who is guilty of issuing the 'faulty' ID.
OT, but I wonder how it's going to play out with the few remaining states that haven't required their inhabitants to get 'Real ID'. Will pax in those states be forced to get a passport to be able to fly domestically?
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Oct 27, 2015, 1:32 pm
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I also have Costco and Sams cards both of which have a picture.
But I choose which one to give to TSA. Generally the Passport card because they have less information.
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Oct 27, 2015, 1:52 pm
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Oct 27, 2015, 1:59 pm
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I carry a Drivers License, Concealed Handgun License (issued by the same agency that issues the drivers license), Military Retired ID, and Passport Card all of which are are photo ID's.
I also have Costco and Sams cards both of which have a picture.
But I choose which one to give to TSA. Generally the Passport card because they have less information.
I also have Costco and Sams cards both of which have a picture.
But I choose which one to give to TSA. Generally the Passport card because they have less information.
Oct 27, 2015, 2:25 pm
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TSA clearly states that a "weapon permit" is not acceptable. I don't understand why it is not since the CHL and DL are issued by the same agency in this state and is clearly indicated as so on the permits.
Out of habit, possibly bad, I keep the DL and CHL together. Here if we are stopped and armed must show police both items. The way I do it I will never be caught up short.
Just thinking I could always but the CHL with the weapon. No weapon no problem.
Oct 27, 2015, 2:28 pm
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Oct 27, 2015, 3:37 pm
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https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...identification
TSA clearly states that a "weapon permit" is not acceptable. I don't understand why it is not since the CHL and DL are issued by the same agency in this state and is clearly indicated as so on the permits.
Out of habit, possibly bad, I keep the DL and CHL together. Here if we are stopped and armed must show police both items. The way I do it I will never be caught up short.
Just thinking I could always but the CHL with the weapon. No weapon no problem.
TSA clearly states that a "weapon permit" is not acceptable. I don't understand why it is not since the CHL and DL are issued by the same agency in this state and is clearly indicated as so on the permits.
Out of habit, possibly bad, I keep the DL and CHL together. Here if we are stopped and armed must show police both items. The way I do it I will never be caught up short.
Just thinking I could always but the CHL with the weapon. No weapon no problem.
Oct 27, 2015, 4:37 pm
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https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...identification
TSA clearly states that a "weapon permit" is not acceptable. I don't understand why it is not since the CHL and DL are issued by the same agency in this state and is clearly indicated as so on the permits.
Out of habit, possibly bad, I keep the DL and CHL together. Here if we are stopped and armed must show police both items. The way I do it I will never be caught up short.
Just thinking I could always but the CHL with the weapon. No weapon no problem.
TSA clearly states that a "weapon permit" is not acceptable. I don't understand why it is not since the CHL and DL are issued by the same agency in this state and is clearly indicated as so on the permits.
Out of habit, possibly bad, I keep the DL and CHL together. Here if we are stopped and armed must show police both items. The way I do it I will never be caught up short.
Just thinking I could always but the CHL with the weapon. No weapon no problem.
Oct 27, 2015, 5:00 pm
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At one time TSA did honor our CHL because of the issuing agency. I think they should still do so, only way to get a CHL is to get a background check.
Oct 27, 2015, 5:03 pm
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No.
If two government agencies (under the same leadership) can't agree on the acceptability of a the photo ID one of them issued, it is NOT the innocent pax who should pay the price.
I don't know about you, but I am not going to complain to CBP and tell them I don't like the picture they've taken because I think it might not meet TSA's approval - and I don't think you would dare to either.
It think it's great that you have multiple photo IDs. I do not, nor do many of the folks in my family.
If two government agencies (under the same leadership) can't agree on the acceptability of a the photo ID one of them issued, it is NOT the innocent pax who should pay the price.
I don't know about you, but I am not going to complain to CBP and tell them I don't like the picture they've taken because I think it might not meet TSA's approval - and I don't think you would dare to either.
It think it's great that you have multiple photo IDs. I do not, nor do many of the folks in my family.
Oct 27, 2015, 5:26 pm
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I will always have two IDs. Passport added only for intl travel. I tend to have a light wallet but in my electronic gadget bag I have a big binder clip with crap cards- hertz, Sixt, Radisson, european stuff, costco, Priority Pass, etc, two AMEX $100 cards for emergency. This generally just lives there and only is occasionally useful. I travel so much that changing my 'kit' for each trip is a recipe for disaster. I have 4 credit cards that will always be in the wallet. In fact the only change is a pouch with intl money, intl sims and the passport which gets dropped into the laptop bag for a trip with intl components.
Oct 27, 2015, 5:38 pm
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The ID is valid, but for the person working at the airport, your picture has to match what you look like. It's pretty basic. If there's a problem with the ID, then instead of being a whiny victim, the OP should deal with it. Again, if it can't get you into a bar, then fix the problem.
The OP didn't say his ID wouldn't get him into a bar. This thread is not about bars.
The OP didn't say he was challenged because the agent didn't think his ID looks like what he looks like. He said that one agent decided that it was invalid because the issuing agency (under the same overall umbrella as his own) clipped the chin off the photo but decided it was still good enough to issue.
The agent's own supervisor didn't agree with him (which is pretty shocking).
Oct 27, 2015, 5:42 pm
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I will always have two IDs. Passport added only for intl travel. I tend to have a light wallet but in my electronic gadget bag I have a big binder clip with crap cards- hertz, Sixt, Radisson, european stuff, costco, Priority Pass, etc, two AMEX $100 cards for emergency. This generally just lives there and only is occasionally useful. I travel so much that changing my 'kit' for each trip is a recipe for disaster. I have 4 credit cards that will always be in the wallet. In fact the only change is a pouch with intl money, intl sims and the passport which gets dropped into the laptop bag for a trip with intl components.
Oct 27, 2015, 5:48 pm
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The ID is valid, but for the person working at the airport, your picture has to match what you look like. It's pretty basic. If there's a problem with the ID, then instead of being a whiny victim, the OP should deal with it. Again, if it can't get you into a bar, then fix the problem.
It seems the problem that needs fixing is the error-making TSA employee -- no less so when a preschool child is as good or better at avoiding "false negatives" when trying to do a match between a person and a presented picture.
. Fortunately another TSA employee corrected the TSA employee who engaged in a "false negative" "match" when it came to cross-checking a person's face against the ID photo of the person's face.
Oct 27, 2015, 6:28 pm
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The ID is valid, but for the person working at the airport, your picture has to match what you look like. It's pretty basic. If there's a problem with the ID, then instead of being a whiny victim, the OP should deal with it. Again, if it can't get you into a bar, then fix the problem.