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Originally Posted by AllieKat
(Post 24848197)
OOOH, yeah, no. Good way to get rejected. And I've never heard of not having a US passport stamped in Europe.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24848282)
I have entered the Schengen Zone a large number of times without my US passport being stamped. Some EU passport control checkpoints even refuse to stamp my US passports, and others don't stamp it unless asked (and I don't ask usually). Some Schengen passport control staff stamp my US passports without even checking out the biodata info in my passport -- as happened to me again when entering Schengen a few days ago in a country with a Germanic language as the only official language.
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Originally Posted by HGHUA
(Post 24848318)
Entering munich once and the officer just glanced at the cover of my passport and waved me through. I was like ugh... Ok?! Didn't even get a chance to hand it to him. Haha. Odd for the germans who are sticklers for rules. Thankfully no trouble leaving later.
Perhaps some passport control of countries bound by Dublin III don't want to catch people using counterfeit or genuine US passports in illegitimate or otherwise questionable ways? For example, maybe some Danes really want refugees/asylum-seekers entering at CPH not to be processed in Denmark and want them to file in Sweden? Maybe some Italians want fake/fraudulent US passport users to file in France or Germany? The incentives are rather mixed, and U.S. passport redesign won't do this dynamic any change. Countries certainly have an interest in trying to protect the "trust" in the ID papers/docs which they issue, but at some point these redesigns of docs are more workfare than systemic solution to any material "trust" deficit in the collective of such documents. |
Originally Posted by AllieKat
(Post 24848197)
OOOH, yeah, no. Good way to get rejected. And I've never heard of not having a US passport stamped in Europe.
Also on validity - after much back and forth, the Dutch FINALLY went to a 10-year passport last year. I really hope the US doesn't go back to a 5 year passport. I've always found the 5 year an incredible nuisance because effectively means it is valid for only 4.5 years (taking into account validity requirements for entering many countries). If you want to make it less than 10, how about 7? |
My passport expires in 2017. Would it be worth it to renew after my next international trip (I know I'll have at least a few month gap in international travel) so I can get another 10 year validity one?
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Originally Posted by greggarious
(Post 24871999)
My passport expires in 2017. Would it be worth it to renew after my next international trip (I know I'll have at least a few month gap in international travel) so I can get another 10 year validity one?
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
(Post 24872385)
There is no reason right n:ow to suspect that the US will change the length of validity of passports it issues.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24848331)
That (show passport cover only) used to be the norm ZRH treatment for me on a U.S. passport, but that changed for me twice: after US passport cover redesign and separately after the Swiss became part of Schengen. Now they almost always open my passport to my biodata page.
Perhaps some passport control of countries bound by Dublin III don't want to catch people using counterfeit or genuine US passports in illegitimate or otherwise questionable ways? For example, maybe some Danes really want refugees/asylum-seekers entering at CPH not to be processed in Denmark and want them to file in Sweden? Maybe some Italians want fake/fraudulent US passport users to file in France or Germany? The incentives are rather mixed, and U.S. passport redesign won't do this dynamic any change. Countries certainly have an interest in trying to protect the "trust" in the ID papers/docs which they issue, but at some point these redesigns of docs are more workfare than systemic solution to any material "trust" deficit in the collective of such documents. to Europe by sea(private yacht) and return by air(using miles). The port immigration officer only looked at my US passport without even opening it.(there were only 3 of us on the yacht, plus 5 crew) At the time, I did not think too much of it. After 3 weeks in France and Netherlands, I went to Zurich by train.(via Germany) My last week was in Geneva. The lack of an entry stamp from any European country created a huge problem. My U.S. passport was completely blank because I had just renewed it prior to sailing from the US. The Swiss immigration officer demanded to know why there was no record of me entering Europe, as well the lack of an airline ticket or boarding pass showing how I got there. I explained how I sailed on my friend's private yacht and that didn't sit too well with them. They spent 30 minutes calling the French port officials who also couldn't tell them anything. Finally, I remember that I had photos of the yacht at the port. I showed the photos to the Swiss officers where were finally convinced that I did not enter the EU illegally or overstayed. I still sometimes get those immigration officers who do not stamp my U.S. passport(for example, Stockholm and Barcelona) I now absolutely insist that they stamp my passport with the entry date clearly visible. :) |
Originally Posted by AppleApe
(Post 24878618)
About 2 years after the Swiss joined Schengen, I traveled from the U.S.
to Europe by sea(private yacht) and return by air(using miles). The port immigration officer only looked at my US passport without even opening it.(there were only 3 of us on the yacht, plus 5 crew) At the time, I did not think too much of it. After 3 weeks in France and Netherlands, I went to Zurich by train.(via Germany) My last week was in Geneva. The lack of an entry stamp from any European country created a huge problem. My U.S. passport was completely blank because I had just renewed it prior to sailing from the US. The Swiss immigration officer demanded to know why there was no record of me entering Europe, as well the lack of an airline ticket or boarding pass showing how I got there. I explained how I sailed on my friend's private yacht and that didn't sit too well with them. They spent 30 minutes calling the French port officials who also couldn't tell them anything. Finally, I remember that I had photos of the yacht at the port. I showed the photos to the Swiss officers where were finally convinced that I did not enter the EU illegally or overstayed. I still sometimes get those immigration officers who do not stamp my U.S. passport(for example, Stockholm and Barcelona) I now absolutely insist that they stamp my passport with the entry date clearly visible. :) I've entered and been with others who entered without European stamps in U.S. passports and then flown from ZRH or GVA to North America; and we've never personally or professionally encountered such treatment in Switzerland. Then again, I don't claim to come into the Schengen zone by private, non-commercial boat, with anything or everything that it may imply. Some Schengen countries refuse to stamp my US passport, and their staff even claim they are not allowed to stamp my US passport. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 24883174)
Some Schengen countries refuse to stamp my US passport, and their staff even claim they are not allowed to stamp my US passport.
actual law/regulations that says they can't stamp US passport. Although I've also gotten that from Canadian AND U.S. immigration officers at land border crossings in Detroit and Vermont. Government employees making up non-existent rules seems to be a worldwide thing. :D :D :D |
How far in advance do they usually announce fee increases?
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Originally Posted by AppleApe
(Post 24883450)
I have heard that from a passport checker at FRA. I assume there is no
actual law/regulations that says they can't stamp US passport. Although I've also gotten that from Canadian AND U.S. immigration officers at land border crossings in Detroit and Vermont. |
Originally Posted by König
(Post 24899224)
FRA? I have flown there numerous times, and my US passport was stamped every single time. That explanation was clearly a BS.
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Well, as a resident here in Germany, they don't stamp my US passport, but I am surprised that visitor passports aren't stamped routinely. One of my friends even had to leave the sterile area because he forgot something, and he was stamped back into Germany, and then again back out, on the same day (2 out stamps and 1 in stamp on the same day...).
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Originally Posted by cafeconleche
(Post 24899630)
Well, as a resident here in Germany, they don't stamp my US passport, but I am surprised that visitor passports aren't stamped routinely. One of my friends even had to leave the sterile area because he forgot something, and he was stamped back into Germany, and then again back out, on the same day (2 out stamps and 1 in stamp on the same day...).
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