Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Automated Border Control Systems

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 30, 2018 | 9:04 pm
  #16  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,077
Originally Posted by aidy

the issue is with the border office not the machine. As the UK machines are not fully automated and the approval is done by a customs officer in the desks behind the automated machines! Let’s hope they’ve gone back to training
The issue is with the machines too, given that people also tend to “proofread”/“match” worse against a digital image than against a real object/person or hard copy. And when manually “proofreading”/“matching” one digital image against another digital image, that’s a recipe for even more of a mess.

Also, it’s rather questionable if training does a whole lot to improve the ability to reduce false matches, positive and/or negative. There are some toddlers who are better at this stuff than “trained” border guards.
GUWonder is offline  
Old Apr 3, 2018 | 6:58 am
  #17  
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: London, UK
Posts: 171
The two bits that get me is:

A) the length of time reading the passport takes - how much data is it actually taking or is it also a scanner taking an image of the page in addition to reading the chip?

B) the seemingly random failures to read the passports - both at LGW and PRG recently a machine rejected a couple of people in a row who immediately went to another machine and went through fine but the next person and I get through the original machine without issue.
Sandtree is offline  
Old Apr 7, 2018 | 11:01 am
  #18  
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GVA
Programs: BA Bronze, LH FTL, KL/AF Ivory
Posts: 1,941
Originally Posted by Astaroth
The two bits that get me is:

A) the length of time reading the passport takes - how much data is it actually taking or is it also a scanner taking an image of the page in addition to reading the chip?
I've never understood this - I've got an app (plenty of them, just look) that will read the data from my passport chip, including the photo. It takes no more than a second. There is security, you have to enter your name first, before it will read and I guess the passport readers at airports read off the data at the bottom of the photo page, but frankly that shouldn't be difficult, it's designed for OCR after all.
I suspect the time is the officer in the darkened booth takes to sup his/her tea before looking at the data.

Last edited by TWA884; Apr 7, 2018 at 2:53 pm Reason: Fix BB Code
catandmouse is offline  
Old Apr 7, 2018 | 1:50 pm
  #19  
1M
50 Countries Visited
5 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: GIG - SVO
Programs: Lost it all and don't care
Posts: 981
I only have experience with the Canadian system called NEXUS (of which I am a member) and the US system referred to a Global Entry (to which I have access).

Never had to use automated border control in the EU yet during my travels.

My only comment is security based. The US and Canadian systems use biometrics (eye retina scans and/or fingreprints) which are essential for security IMHO. I hope the EU would have the political will to use the same.
KDS777 is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.