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Boggie Dog Nov 4, 2013 10:37 am


Originally Posted by sonofzeus (Post 21724288)
OT Q: Do you dig the Sig?

Sig makes a nice line of weapons. Very happy with my Sig P245.

Boggie Dog Nov 4, 2013 10:39 am


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 21723908)
Not entirely true. A responsible person entrusted with a firearm will want to be trained in how to use that firearm.

However, the converse is not true; training someone in how to use a firearm does not make them a responsible person.



Agreed. However, this wouldn't be the first TSA over-reaction to an incredibly unlikely threat.

But the training didn't make the person responsible, they already had that trait. Training only taught how to use the tool effectively.

FLgrr Nov 4, 2013 10:43 am

STOP over reacting!! Bad things happen everywhere. TSA is to secure the flights, and they do that in an unfriendly manor as it is. Adding guns won't improve the process of getting through the airport. If all passengers had been armed, someone might have shot the guy sooner, or open fire on more TSA seeing the way we are treated. Don't want bad stuff to happen to you? Don't go outside or anywhere near the planet

Caradoc Nov 4, 2013 10:52 am


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 21723908)
However, this wouldn't be the first TSA over-reaction to an incredibly unlikely threat.

Hrm. The TSA is, as an organization, an overreaction to an incredibly unlikely threat.

Himeno Nov 4, 2013 11:12 am

If TSA gets guns, they'll be the ones doing the shooting. We'd be getting weekly reports of passengers getting shot by TSA.

DeafBlonde Nov 4, 2013 11:36 am


Originally Posted by Caradoc (Post 21724659)
Except, of course, when they're screening for drugs, sequentially-numbered checks, or large amounts of cash - all of which they do despite any claims they don't.

...and cupcakes! You forgot cupcakes...
:rolleyes:

Boggie Dog Nov 4, 2013 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by DeafBlonde (Post 21725393)
...and cupcakes! You forgot cupcakes...
:rolleyes:

And purses. Don't forget the purses.

TMOliver Nov 4, 2013 12:59 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 21724142)
The focus on the AR-15 I think is just a distraction. The guy could have been just as dangerous and deadly, or more so, with a Remington 870. A gun in the hands of a person intent on doing harm is a bad situation no matter what type of weapon used.

The issue that has to be addressed is what steps can be taken to prevent a recurrence of this type of event. I suggest that this type of act is almost impossible to prevent. What can be done is to take steps to minimize the amount of damage done.

It is a bad deal all the way around but going overboard on prevention is just as bad.

Agreed. Were I of similar intent, a short barreled 870, "00"s, buck & ball, or, perish the thought, #4s for use against folks with body armor but not bulletproof sunglasses, is likely an equally effective choice. It's less the weapon than the intent and dispatch in using it.

eyecue Nov 4, 2013 1:59 pm

In a word, the answer is no! There are a lot of reasons why.
1. Anyone over age 40 wont be allowed.
2. There are TSA officers that have never handled a firearm.
3. There are too many people in a close space in checkpoint screening.
4. The expense of training and arming them is too high.
5. The liability is too high.
6. There are TSA officers that dont want to be armed.
7. There are TSA officers that would quit if it came down to that.
8. The qualification process would be to hard to implement.
etc

Boggie Dog Nov 4, 2013 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 21726481)
In a word, the answer is no! There are a lot of reasons why.
1. Anyone over age 40 wont be allowed.
2. There are TSA officers that have never handled a firearm.
3. There are too many people in a close space in checkpoint screening.
4. The expense of training and arming them is too high.
5. The liability is too high.
6. There are TSA officers that dont want to be armed.
7. There are TSA officers that would quit if it came down to that.
8. The qualification process would be to hard to implement.
etc

I don't disagree with you but why do you say that over 40's wouldn't be allowed?

golfguy714 Nov 4, 2013 2:29 pm

Hell no!

Superguy Nov 4, 2013 4:21 pm

I wouldn't trust them to pack squirt guns, let alone real guns. :td:

Spiff Nov 4, 2013 4:54 pm

Hmmm.... felons are usually barred from possessing firearms. Sexual assault is usually deemed/prosecuted as a felony...

GUWonder Nov 4, 2013 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 21726662)
I don't disagree with you but why do you say that over 40's wouldn't be allowed?

Federal law enforcement employers all have a maximum entry age limit for LEO positions at least when it comes to people with no prior LEO experience.

For some career intelligence positions, much the same is true for entry age maximums -- although the intel agencies have been able to basically get around that for special "skills" needs far more than federal law enforcement employers for ordinary civilian LE purposes.

ScatterX Nov 4, 2013 5:12 pm

The first NEW call for armed TSA...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1

Apparently they have a new mandate, to protect the screening area.


"We want to make sure we are doing everything possible to secure screening areas"

-David Cox (national president of the American Federation of Government Employees)
:mad::rolleyes::mad::rolleyes::mad::rolleyes:


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