Best checkpoint experience in years
#1
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Best checkpoint experience in years
IND, today.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
I about fell over and died...
I asked the TSA woman running the line what was up and she said it was a test/pilot program. I asked if it was related to the dog, and she actually acknowledged that it was.
I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but if this spreads a modicum of joy will return to air travel. I even took the time to express my pleasure with the process to the three striper in charge.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
I about fell over and died...
I asked the TSA woman running the line what was up and she said it was a test/pilot program. I asked if it was related to the dog, and she actually acknowledged that it was.
I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but if this spreads a modicum of joy will return to air travel. I even took the time to express my pleasure with the process to the three striper in charge.
#2
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IND, today.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
I about fell over and died...
I asked the TSA woman running the line what was up and she said it was a test/pilot program. I asked if it was related to the dog, and she actually acknowledged that it was.
I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but if this spreads a modicum of joy will return to air travel. I even took the time to express my pleasure with the process to the three striper in charge.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
I about fell over and died...
I asked the TSA woman running the line what was up and she said it was a test/pilot program. I asked if it was related to the dog, and she actually acknowledged that it was.
I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but if this spreads a modicum of joy will return to air travel. I even took the time to express my pleasure with the process to the three striper in charge.
#3
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,444
I am starting to develop a small spark of hope that the TSA may be trying to creep discretely toward a more reasonable form of screening for all or at least most while not doing it all at once to save face (and continue to get PreCheck dollars). It remains to be seen if this free Pre experience privilege will ever be given to those of us who dont have valid US drivers licenses to present as ID...
#4

Join Date: Dec 2007
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Posts: 663
IND, today.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
I about fell over and died...
I asked the TSA woman running the line what was up and she said it was a test/pilot program. I asked if it was related to the dog, and she actually acknowledged that it was.
I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but if this spreads a modicum of joy will return to air travel. I even took the time to express my pleasure with the process to the three striper in charge.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
I about fell over and died...
I asked the TSA woman running the line what was up and she said it was a test/pilot program. I asked if it was related to the dog, and she actually acknowledged that it was.
I'm not getting my hopes up yet, but if this spreads a modicum of joy will return to air travel. I even took the time to express my pleasure with the process to the three striper in charge.
#5
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 959
I am starting to develop a small spark of hope that the TSA may be trying to creep discretely toward a more reasonable form of screening for all or at least most while not doing it all at once to save face (and continue to get PreCheck dollars). It remains to be seen if this free Pre experience privilege will ever be given to those of us who dont have valid US drivers licenses to present as ID...

If so...^
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#6
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,444
I am begining to wonder if this is in response to the Public Comment regarding the Rule Change (or whatever they call that when the public was allowed to sound off about the rule change to allow "Advanced Imaging Technology" for airline passenger screening). Do you think TSA is now, finally, listening to the travelling public???
If so...^

If so...^

#7
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
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Don't know, really. On one hand, I'm a little hopeful. On the other, I have a premonition that if more people get expedited screening, things may get even worse for those of us (including foreigners, those who are brown or named Mohamed, etc) that are "scary": we may get even worse screening with the added time for attention...
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IND, today.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
There was a TSA dog sniffing luggage/passengers (pretty discreetly I might add) at the entrance to the line. I got the the document checker and was told no laptop out, no shoes off, no belt off, no light jacket off and the only things that had to come out of pockets was metal. All passengers were being directed through the WTMD.
What happens if the dog alerts? Can I walk away at that point? Am I physically searched at that point? Does this mean that I have to get a secondary? (And in all of this, I am assuming that the dog is trained to detect explosives and not, for example, drugs.)
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While this is refreshing to hear on one level, it does raise an issue. We have been told by the TSA that the administrative search does not begin until we either present ourselves for the WBI or the WTMD, or place our items on the belt (both of which occur after the TDC). The dog begins the search outside of that area, which is problematic.
What happens if the dog alerts? Can I walk away at that point? Am I physically searched at that point? Does this mean that I have to get a secondary? (And in all of this, I am assuming that the dog is trained to detect explosives and not, for example, drugs.)
What happens if the dog alerts? Can I walk away at that point? Am I physically searched at that point? Does this mean that I have to get a secondary? (And in all of this, I am assuming that the dog is trained to detect explosives and not, for example, drugs.)
Wasn't it the TSA (at BOS IIRC) that was doing electronic searches of walking or stationary persons with terahertz and/or infrared camera technology and using that technology in the main hallway near baggage claim and/or check-in areas?
Last edited by GUWonder; Oct 25, 2013 at 8:01 am
#13
Join Date: Apr 2010
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Lots of non-US have pre. Just because you don't/can't is no reason to make a knowingly inaccurate statement.
#14




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Is there anything to stop the TSA from claiming the administrative search is consented to when in line at/for TSA screening? They seem willing to keep pushing the limits as much as they can and are willing to cross all sorts of lines to get what they want.
Wasn't it the TSA (at BOS IIRC) that was doing electronic searches of walking or stationary persons with terahertz and/or infrared camera technology and using that technology in the main hallway near baggage claim and/or check-in areas?
Wasn't it the TSA (at BOS IIRC) that was doing electronic searches of walking or stationary persons with terahertz and/or infrared camera technology and using that technology in the main hallway near baggage claim and/or check-in areas?
I ran into that technology in DEN around the time of the 2008 Democratic National Convention. It was on the upper level walkway and there were signs concerning it on the walkway. However, I came up the elevator unknowingly right into the search area of the machine. I had no notice and was not aware until after I exited, looked back and saw and read the sign. Too little, too late.
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Is there anything to stop the TSA from claiming the administrative search is consented to when in line at/for TSA screening? They seem willing to keep pushing the limits as much as they can and are willing to cross all sorts of lines to get what they want.
Wasn't it the TSA (at BOS IIRC) that was doing electronic searches of walking or stationary persons with terahertz and/or infrared camera technology and using that technology in the main hallway near baggage claim and/or check-in areas?
Wasn't it the TSA (at BOS IIRC) that was doing electronic searches of walking or stationary persons with terahertz and/or infrared camera technology and using that technology in the main hallway near baggage claim and/or check-in areas?



