DCA TSO misconduct with my 16yo
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Nonsense. This is in the SOP? Screeners are allowed to put their badge in their pocket? Tape over their name? Wear stocking masks to disguise who they are?
I claim if it can be seen in public with an eyeball, it can be filmed. With the monitor exceptions already mentioned on the web site. It's the same doctrine that allows filming of LEOs doing their duty. A public servant acting in public can have no expectation of privacy.
It goes with the job. If the staff isn't trained in this at indoctrination, then that's yet another management failure.
I claim if it can be seen in public with an eyeball, it can be filmed. With the monitor exceptions already mentioned on the web site. It's the same doctrine that allows filming of LEOs doing their duty. A public servant acting in public can have no expectation of privacy.
It goes with the job. If the staff isn't trained in this at indoctrination, then that's yet another management failure.
The legality and Constitutionality of concealing the identity of a public employee, particularly a badged, uniformed, paramilitary employee whose job is rife with opportunities for abuse of power under color of authority, is of course up for debate.
My personal opinion is that NO government employee should be able to conceal their identity from the public for whom they work. Every TSO, TSM, AFSD and FSD, every federal employee who works in public and interacts with the general public in any way should be required to display in plain view at all times a name tag with their full names and their job titles, and to provide that information verbally on demand to anyone who asks.
Additionally, I find it absurd that TSA does not maintain an online list of current FSDs and AFSDs at all airports, along with their contact information. It is difficult to find the name of the current FSD at any particular airport, leading me to believe that this information is also being deliberately witheld from the pblic under the dubious assertion that publicly identifying these folks would put them "at risk." The particular risk is somewhat nebulous, but terrorist blackmail and Evil Stalking Crazy Passengers are implied.
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Then go through the body scanner or don'y fly. Flying is a privilege, not a right. And yes, the pat-downs are pretty pervasive and make many people uncomfortable. But you can't really call them "inappropriate". It's just the nature of the pat-down, it is "inappropriate" for everyone.
Because I don't recall encountering pat downs in many other facets of my daily life. In fact, the only times I've EVER been the subject of a pat down have been at the airport checkpoint.
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Can you please explain what you mean when you write that "pat-downs are pretty pervasive"? Do you mean that it is spread throughout every part of society? That it is rather penetrating? Or something else?
Because I don't recall encountering pat downs in many other facets of my daily life. In fact, the only times I've EVER been the subject of a pat down have been at the airport checkpoint.
Because I don't recall encountering pat downs in many other facets of my daily life. In fact, the only times I've EVER been the subject of a pat down have been at the airport checkpoint.
Of course, TSA full-body rubdowns with genital contact and hands inside the pants and shirt ARE very invasive while simultaneously completely perverse, so the word almost makes sense.
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I want to make sure I correct this. The supervisor only said the stuff about not getting the face/name. The plain-clothes manager said that if what I said was true that it was "not okay".


