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drgkjf Jul 18, 2013 2:38 pm

pre-check (pre-screen) requirements
 
reading the description, it seems it available to....

....TSA Pre✓™ includes U.S. citizens who are select frequent travelers of participating airlines.....

does anyone know what "select" frequent flyer implies here? e.g premier elite?

has anyone been turned down and why?

thanks

Ari Jul 18, 2013 2:41 pm


Originally Posted by drgkjf (Post 21120572)
does anyone know what "select" frequent flyer implies here? e.g premier elite?

Elite status is not a requirement, but top-tier members seem to get it the most. On UA, for example, Gold and above sometimes get it, but Silver and below rarely do.

My mother has it on AA despite not having elite status with them. I don't know how that happened.

drgkjf Jul 18, 2013 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 21120589)
Elite status is not a requirement, but top-tier members seem to get it the most. On UA, for example, Gold and above sometimes get it, but Silver and below rarely do.

My mother has it on AA despite not having elite status with them. I don't know how that happened.


thanks..can you please clarify one thing? when you say silver and below rarely get it, do you mean they rarely apply or apply and are declined?

drgkjf Jul 18, 2013 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 21120589)
Elite status is not a requirement, but top-tier members seem to get it the most. On UA, for example, Gold and above sometimes get it, but Silver and below rarely do.

My mother has it on AA despite not having elite status with them. I don't know how that happened.

PS..the only thing UA site is asking is you be a FF member even if you enroll that moment

so does your mother have higher level with other airlines?

ediemac1 Jul 18, 2013 3:25 pm

Several threads over in Practical Travel Safety Issues with lots of detail.

The nutshell version: eligibility comes via a Trusted Traveler program (Global Entry) or from an offer from a participating airline, usually given to elites.

However, eligibility does not mean chosen for precheck every flight. There is supposed to be some element of randomness.

My personal experience is, as a GE member, I am 100% with precheck. Anecdotal data from the other forum indicate access as an elite is less than 100%.

dinoscool3 Jul 18, 2013 6:59 pm

My parents who are Silver on UA have gotten Pre-check 100% of the time. However, due to TSA age requirements, those between the ages of 12 and 18 cannot go through Pre-Check (or so I have been told multiple times) so I have to go through the normal lane every time. It's very annoying for me ;)

YumYumcake Jul 18, 2013 7:00 pm

It also works for non US citizens, even those not eligible for GE.

dustman81 Jul 18, 2013 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by dinoscool3 (Post 21121704)
My parents who are Silver on UA have gotten Pre-check 100% of the time. However, due to TSA age requirements, those between the ages of 12 and 18 cannot go through Pre-Check (or so I have been told multiple times) so I have to go through the normal lane every time. It's very annoying for me ;)

Those under 12 can accompany their parent, if their parent has Precheck. Anyone over 12 would need to have Precheck on their boarding pass to go through the Pre line.

As long as you get the three beeps, there should be no reason to deny you access to the Pre line.

drgkjf Jul 18, 2013 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by dinoscool3 (Post 21121704)
My parents who are Silver on UA have gotten Pre-check 100% of the time. However, due to TSA age requirements, those between the ages of 12 and 18 cannot go through Pre-Check (or so I have been told multiple times) so I have to go through the normal lane every time. It's very annoying for me ;)

i was trying to find out if NON-ELITES are eligible of commonly accepted?

UA policy not clear.

ScottC Jul 18, 2013 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by drgkjf (Post 21122259)
i was trying to find out if NON-ELITES are eligible of commonly accepted?

UA policy not clear.

Just pay the $100 and go through Global Entry as others mentioned.

guflyer Jul 18, 2013 10:54 pm

The thing that seems confusing is that United's website allows anyone with a frequent flier number to apply for precheck, while the other major airlines only invite elite members. Does United submit the non-elite members for pre-check, or is this just for show?

drgkjf Jul 18, 2013 10:59 pm


Originally Posted by guflyer (Post 21122576)
The thing that seems confusing is that United's website allows anyone with a frequent flier number to apply for precheck, while the other major airlines only invite elite members. Does United submit the non-elite members for pre-check, or is this just for show?

that is the question i started this thread with...no one is answering that...perhaps because the not enough data out there.

one data point is ARI's post- ari's mother, non elite with AA got it

dinoscool3 Jul 18, 2013 11:16 pm


Originally Posted by dustman81 (Post 21121901)
Those under 12 can accompany their parent, if their parent has Precheck. Anyone over 12 would need to have Precheck on their boarding pass to go through the Pre line.

As long as you get the three beeps, there should be no reason to deny you access to the Pre line.



They don't give it out to anyone under 18, it's not that they refuse people entering the line.

Ari Jul 18, 2013 11:31 pm


Originally Posted by guflyer (Post 21122576)
The thing that seems confusing is that United's website allows anyone with a frequent flier number to apply for precheck, while the other major airlines only invite elite members. Does United submit the non-elite members for pre-check, or is this just for show?

Other airlines are smarter and send invitations to opt in to those who might qualify; UA is stupid and lets anyone check the box even though most don't qualify.

Non-elites geting PreCheck is rare. Very rare.

United747 Jul 19, 2013 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by dinoscool3 (Post 21122649)
They don't give it out to anyone under 18, it's not that they refuse people entering the line.

I was able to get pre check 15-20 times before turning 18. I enrolled in Global Entry just before my 17th birthday and have, since then, been getting pre check almost 100% of the time.


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