Is that an IED in your pocket, or...
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When a test is failed, we don’t simply check a tick mark in a box and move on. Nor do we take punitive measures as this testing is a learning experience.
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Well, if TSA went around 'punishing' screeners who fail tests (by sending them to more ineffectual training), morale would go down.
I wonder if companies like, oh, McDonald's and Apple and Amazon take this approach.
Or big hospitals and medical universities and nursing schools.
Or the organization that trains drone operators.
Odd that TSA doesn't extend the same generous tolerance to flyers who don't know the current checkpoint rules in place at a particular airport checkpoint with a particular screener on a particular day. Why don't pax get the benefit of a 'learning' experience?
I wonder if companies like, oh, McDonald's and Apple and Amazon take this approach.
Or big hospitals and medical universities and nursing schools.
Or the organization that trains drone operators.
Odd that TSA doesn't extend the same generous tolerance to flyers who don't know the current checkpoint rules in place at a particular airport checkpoint with a particular screener on a particular day. Why don't pax get the benefit of a 'learning' experience?
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Since were on the topic of Newark, an article with comments from an alleged anonymous former Transportation Security Officer from EWR was posted over the weekend by the New York Post. Its amazing how much credence a newspaper can give to someone who is not accountable for what he or she says. With that said, much of what this alleged former TSO had to say is just uninformed generalizations painted with a very wide brush. In the past, we have seen former employees who were terminated for wrongdoing quoted in stories like this one. As you might imagine, we think they have a credibility gap.
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Apparently the goodwill campaign continues at the TSA Blog. To draw less attention to the EWR story (and the dig of the former TSA screener), they quickly posted a feel-good story about a deputy FSD in FL who saved someone's life. "Hey, look at us. We do good things and not all of us are bad apples."
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I like the New York Post's explanation better:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...dT3pB1YDSWWQcL
The TSA whined yesterday that its just too darn hard for agents to find bombs unless the terrorists use explosives straight out of a Loony Tunes cartoon.
That was the agencys sorry excuse to explain how Newark Airport screeners were completely outmatched by an undercover fed who stuffed an IED in his pants and slipped through two layers of security.
That was the agencys sorry excuse to explain how Newark Airport screeners were completely outmatched by an undercover fed who stuffed an IED in his pants and slipped through two layers of security.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...dT3pB1YDSWWQcL
Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.), who heads the powerful Government Operations Subcommittee and helped create the TSA, said Burns violated national security protocols by disclosing details of the Newark test on the blog.
The first thing I have to do is investigate how much theyre paying for their blog team, Mica told The Post.
Here you have some guy on a blog, which is a questionable expenditure of that agency, confirming that it was a failure. Thats the last thing TSA should be doing on a blog or publicly . . . This [blog] should be a primary candidate for sequestration.
Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.), who heads the powerful Government Operations Subcommittee and helped create the TSA, said Burns violated national security protocols by disclosing details of the Newark test on the blog.
The first thing I have to do is investigate how much theyre paying for their blog team, Mica told The Post.
Here you have some guy on a blog, which is a questionable expenditure of that agency, confirming that it was a failure. Thats the last thing TSA should be doing on a blog or publicly . . . This [blog] should be a primary candidate for sequestration.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...dT3pB1YDSWWQcL
Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.), who heads the powerful Government Operations Subcommittee and helped create the TSA, said Burns violated national security protocols by disclosing details of the Newark test on the blog.
“The first thing I have to do is investigate how much they’re paying for their blog team,” Mica told The Post.
“Here you have some guy on a blog, which is a questionable expenditure of that agency, confirming that it was a failure. That’s the last thing TSA should be doing on a blog or publicly . . . This [blog] should be a primary candidate for sequestration.”
Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.), who heads the powerful Government Operations Subcommittee and helped create the TSA, said Burns violated national security protocols by disclosing details of the Newark test on the blog.
“The first thing I have to do is investigate how much they’re paying for their blog team,” Mica told The Post.
“Here you have some guy on a blog, which is a questionable expenditure of that agency, confirming that it was a failure. That’s the last thing TSA should be doing on a blog or publicly . . . This [blog] should be a primary candidate for sequestration.”
Now whether he actually acts on that bluster ...
It certainly took him long enough to take notice of PV.
Regardless, it can't be good for one's career to be called our directly by a Congressman ... unless they work for TSA.
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I like the New York Post's explanation better:
he TSA whined yesterday that its just too darn hard for agents to find bombs unless the terrorists use explosives straight out of a Loony Tunes cartoon.
That was the agencys sorry excuse to explain how Newark Airport screeners were completely outmatched by an undercover fed who stuffed an IED in his pants and slipped through two layers of security.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...dT3pB1YDSWWQcL
he TSA whined yesterday that its just too darn hard for agents to find bombs unless the terrorists use explosives straight out of a Loony Tunes cartoon.
That was the agencys sorry excuse to explain how Newark Airport screeners were completely outmatched by an undercover fed who stuffed an IED in his pants and slipped through two layers of security.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...dT3pB1YDSWWQcL
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It's amazing that a Member of Congress (more like a staffer) actually reads Propaganda Village. More importantly, the member or staffer has been reading all of our comments as well as the complete idiocy posted by clerks such as Ronnie, West, and Kellie Mae. Castleveter's House of cards just came crumbling down.
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Originally Posted by John Mica
This [blog] should be a primary candidate for sequestration.
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Mica provided the perfect excuse for Pissy to just kill the Blog. He knows it's been a huge no-win lead weight, and, now, Mica handed him a reason to make it go away on a silver platter.
It's amazing that a Member of Congress (more like a staffer) actually reads Propaganda Village. More importantly, the member or staffer has been reading all of our comments as well as the complete idiocy posted by clerks such as Ronnie, West, and Kellie Mae. Castleveter's House of cards just came crumbling down.
It's amazing that a Member of Congress (more like a staffer) actually reads Propaganda Village. More importantly, the member or staffer has been reading all of our comments as well as the complete idiocy posted by clerks such as Ronnie, West, and Kellie Mae. Castleveter's House of cards just came crumbling down.
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I like the New York Post's explanation better:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...dT3pB1YDSWWQcL
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/b...dT3pB1YDSWWQcL