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Originally Posted by Blueheaven
(Post 36448850)
Somehow TSA agent where you show boarding pass and ID at the security line always asks a child their name when traveling with their parent. happened to us last few times we traveled. My child although autistic can speak and he says his name loud. What if the child can't speak. I know the boarding pass or ID satisfies. They are just power tripping right?
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 36449030)
It’s a pretty basic way of making sure you aren’t giving a fake id. If you say I’m John Brown and the id says John Smith. It also could be useful to prevent human trafficking. What if that was NOT your son? Now you can argue that it’s not the TSA’s business but they are handling security.
If a person was going to use a false ID seems they would have the aliase down pat. Until the day that TSA can reliably find bullets maybe they should just focus on their duties as codified in law. Say your name ain't in there.:idea: |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 36449672)
When did TSA get responsibilities to prevent human trafficking?
If a person was going to use a false ID seems they would have the aliase down pat. Until the day that TSA can reliably find bullets maybe they should just focus on their duties as codified in law. Say your name ain't in there.:idea: |
Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 36449695)
I work for a company that does business with the federal government. I have to take an annual course on human trafficking. It started a few years ago.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 36449709)
So? Doesn't mean TSA can go outside the law to harass air travelers. If there's a law show it.
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 36449715)
OMG. They asked me to say my name? Now I know how the Jews felt. 😭
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 36449896)
I fail to understand the eagerness of some people to surrender to unjust government demands.
”Ronald McDonald” I bet you complain about having to give your name when you apply for a job or pay your taxes or get a driver’s license? You’re flying on an airplane and going through a security checkpoint, not ordering a burger at Wendy’s. |
Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 36449912)
You’re flying on an airplane and going through a security checkpoint, not ordering a burger at Wendy’s.
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 36449030)
It’s a pretty basic way of making sure you aren’t giving a fake id. If you say I’m John Brown and the id says John Smith. It also could be useful to prevent human trafficking. What if that was NOT your son? Now you can argue that it’s not the TSA’s business but they are handling security.
Human traffic, as repugnant as it is, is a criminal matter that poses no threat to aviation whatsoever, and TSA has no more authority to investigate or combat it under color of law than any ordinary citizen. |
Originally Posted by WillCAD
(Post 36451749)
TSA is responsible for aviation security. They are there to protect the planes, and to a lesser extent the airports, from terrorist activity such as bombings and hijackings.
Human traffic, as repugnant as it is, is a criminal matter that poses no threat to aviation whatsoever, and TSA has no more authority to investigate or combat it under color of law than any ordinary citizen. So, to be fair, TSA is not "investigating" human trafficking, rather, it is notifying another organization that is an AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) when a potential violation of federal law comes to its attention. Part of TSA's mandate is to verify the identity of individuals boarding aircraft. If, during that verification process, TSA comes across signs of potential violations of other law (whether federal or state/local), it is most definitely within its authority to notify the/an AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) to investigate. Can you imagine the outcry when some travel document checker says, "Oh yeah, that child gave a different name, said the adult wasn't his parent, and appeared nervous and agitated when he came through my station, but hey, that's not the primary purpose of the TSA...?" |
Originally Posted by Section 107
(Post 36451836)
I am against "mission creep" and am no fan of TSA as my posts here for years will attest. However, federal agencies collaborate, cooperate and assist other federal agencies ALL the time. They are all part of the same government. And, honestly, I think that is how we expect our government to work.
So, to be fair, TSA is not "investigating" human trafficking, rather, it is notifying another organization that is an AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) when a potential violation of federal law comes to its attention. Part of TSA's mandate is to verify the identity of individuals boarding aircraft. If, during that verification process, TSA comes across signs of potential violations of other law (whether federal or state/local), it is most definitely within its authority to notify the/an AHJ (authority having jurisdiction) to investigate. Can you imagine the outcry when some travel document checker says, "Oh yeah, that child gave a different name, said the adult wasn't his parent, and appeared nervous and agitated when he came through my station, but hey, that's not the primary purpose of the TSA...?" Leave law enforcement matters to those trained in law enforcement. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 36452300)
Minors don't require ID and nothing gives TSA carte blanche to go on fishing expeditions. TSA oversteps yet has issues performing their most basic duties of finding Weapons, Explosives, and Incendiaries.
Leave law enforcement matters to those trained in law enforcement. |
Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 36452407)
Yawn. Saying your name is not a fishing expedition. You folks say the TSA can’t catch anything yet if they help a person who is being trafficked, you act like the next step is mandatory location chips for all citizens.
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Originally Posted by Xyzzy
(Post 36452483)
Where does it stop? Why don't we have the TSA do some other helpful things while they are at it. They could instruct passengers about proper ways to lift their bags onto the scanning belt (lift with the knees). They could show passengers pictures of missing children or the FBI's 10 most wanted list to see if we've seen any of them. There would be no more need to go to the post office to see that list. While searching for liquids they could warn about the dangers of sugary drinks. Why, there's n:rolleyes: end to the usefulness they can provide! ...and for only a few seconds of our time while we're getting screened.
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Originally Posted by zitsky
(Post 36452651)
Before you know it the government will sk you to show identification……
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