Wet reckless and entry back to the us
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Really, don't waste your money on DUI specialists. DUI lawyers specialize in pleading cases to wet reckless and collecting $2500 for their hour of trouble... Lawyers who specialize in DUI don't like to take cases to trial or even go through your particulars -- they make a lot more money by pleading you out.
And as has been said, "wet reckless" is the *exact* same thing as a DUI in the eyes of law enforcement, it just lets you save a little face on job applications.
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That isn't entirely correct-- in some states, 0.05% is caries a rebuttable presumption of intoxication. 0.08% is the per se limit, not the presumption level which varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
No, the prosecution doesn't have to prove intoxication because the legislature set a per se legal limit at 0.08%. What studies show is not relevant.
DUI (even a bona fide DUI) is not a CIMT. For immigration purposes, a minor drug charge is much more of an problem than a simple DUI.
Did you want to cite a law that supports your assertion? And why would nationality matter anyway?
To "drink and drive" is not illegal in the first place. Driving under the influence is illegal. If I have one drink and then drive home, I am not putting everyone else on the road in mortal danger, nor am I committing a crime.
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The OP should consult a competent criminal attorney and a competent immigration attorney, but the tone of this thread-- that a DUI or similar is a death knell for immigration purposes-- has no basis in law or fact. It is serious, but not as serious as everyone here seems to think it is. An attorney (a real one, not a blogger) can set the record straight.
OP has already stated that he's pleading guilty. If he's not, he can take it to trial and win or lose as the facts come out.
This thread is about the immigration implications of a plea and those are extraordinarily serious and are the reason he needs a skilled immigration attorney.
This thread is about the immigration implications of a plea and those are extraordinarily serious and are the reason he needs a skilled immigration attorney.
Get yourself a really good immigration attorney. Screwups here can result in problems, not just now, but for many years.
The US takes alcohol-related stuff really seriously and, unfortunately for you, motor vehicle crimes are much better and rapidly tracked than non-motor vehicle.
The US takes alcohol-related stuff really seriously and, unfortunately for you, motor vehicle crimes are much better and rapidly tracked than non-motor vehicle.
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The OP should consult a competent criminal attorney and a competent immigration attorney, but the tone of this thread-- that a DUI or similar is a death knell for immigration purposes-- has no basis in law or fact. It is serious, but not as serious as everyone here seems to think it is. An attorney (a real one, not a blogger) can set the record straight.
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By "law enforcement" I only meant police officers, CBP, and so on. I didn't mean the court system (which would impose jail sentences -- law enforcement doesn't do this). My point was that when a LEO/CBP/etc looks at your record and sees "wet reckless," they think "DUI."
Your advice on the quality of attorney is very true and very good advice (albeit expensive). It's the $2500 Drive-Thru Plea Bargainers that I was saying should be avoided.
The OP should consult a competent criminal attorney and a competent immigration attorney, but the tone of this thread-- that a DUI or similar is a death knell for immigration purposes-- has no basis in law or fact. It is serious, but not as serious as everyone here seems to think it is. An attorney (a real one, not a blogger) can set the record straight.
Everyone seems to be applying lessons from GE denials to immigration as a whole. That said, I believe Canada does treat DUI conviction as a death knell to immigration. (I think... I may be confusing it with Canada's stance on felonies.)
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That is my impression. People are confusing Canada's stance on DUIs and Global Entry criteria with US immigration law. It is quite possible that a simple DUI or a wet reckless has no immigration implications in the USA; I don't know. But I can gaurantee it isn't nearly as serious as poeple here make it out to be.
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California requires all convicted DUI offenders to serve time in jail. For first offenders the mandatory minimum is 48 hours. The minimum increases to 96 hours for a second offense within 10 years and 120 days for a third offense. A fourth offense can be prosecuted as a felony.
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The OP's case is pending in California. I cited California law.
California requires all convicted DUI offenders to serve time in jail. For first offenders the mandatory minimum is 48 hours. The minimum increases to 96 hours for a second offense within 10 years and 120 days for a third offense. A fourth offense can be prosecuted as a felony.
Originally Posted by CA Vehicle Code Section 23538
(a) (1) If the court grants probation to person punished under Section 23536, in addition to the provisions of Section 23600 and any other terms and conditions imposed by the court, the court shall impose as a condition of probation that the person pay a fine of at least three hundred ninety dollars ($390), but not more than one thousand dollars ($1,000). The court may also impose, as a condition of probation, that the person be confined in a county jail for at least 48 hours, but not more than six months.
In other words, a judge can find a defendant guilty in which case the 48/96 hour minimum applies, but if a judge "grants probation to person punished under Section 23536," the judge can choose to impose jail time . . . or not. So jail time is not required if a person is granted probation. (The law is written in such a way that someone not familiar with California criminal law-- namely what a judge granting probation means under the law and how it differs from a standard guilty disposition-- could easily reach the same mistaken conclusion you reached). Bottom line: A grant of probation is the norm for first-time DUIs in California, and no jail time is the norm for that probation. If there are aggarvating factors, all bets are off, but in the case of your garden-variety DUI, probation with no jail time is the most likely outcome.
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I practice in California courts and I am familiar with the sentencing practices here. Jail time is the norm for first time offenders who are placed on probation.
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.08 is just the number that defines presumed to be impaired. If you're found to be .08 or higher the prosecution doesn't have to prove impairment because numerous studies over the years have shown that an operator is impaired at .08 or higher. You can still be impaired at less than .08 and then it's up to the prosecution to show how you were impaired, it could have been a substance that was magnified by the alcohol that led to impairment. Furthermore, depending on when the test was taken, the percentage at the time of the stop can be determined based upon statistical analysis taking into account metabolism, weight, sex, etc. You could have blood drawn hours after the stop that comes back less than .08 but based upon the reverse analysis, it can be determined that hours prior at the time of the stop you were in fact over .08.
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For first time wet reckless driving and other DUI/DWI situations not involving harm to other persons/property? Given California's budget problems and over-filled jails/prisons, can they really manage to make it the state norm?
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The fines for DUI would easily cover that. But there are a lot of jail alternatives anyway.
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Except for unusual circumstances or when bodily injury to other is involved, it is not the courts' practice to impose jail time as a condition of probation for a first time conviction of alcohol related reckless driving, the so called "wet reckless."
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I agree with those who said to get an immigration lawyer involved. In many cases the interpretation and consequences under immigration law for the same offense to a non-Citizen (in terms of immigration status etc) is more severe than to a Citizen who may not face any consequences or minimal consequences such as a fine for the same offence.
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California requires all convicted DUI offenders to serve time in jail. For first offenders the mandatory minimum is 48 hours. The minimum increases to 96 hours for a second offense within 10 years and 120 days for a third offense. A fourth offense can be prosecuted as a felony.

