Why does my dad do this?
My parents just cleared FLL security...as you know they have BKSX primary. I told them about the family line trick, but it seems that was not an option this morning.
My mom, a cancer survivor, opted out as usual. She claims to have had no problems. My dad, on the other hand, continues to be a member of the sheeple population. He went through the scan, and then when I talked to him about it said "well, everyone is doing it". (To which I offered that if everyone jumped off a bridge, would he?) I'm sure everyone on here has a family member like this. What can we do to convince them of the lack of safety of these machines? Or are they just lost causes? |
Most people don't care about the health risks.
An amazing amount of people still consume aspertame, also known to cause cancer. |
Originally Posted by jco613
(Post 19270426)
What can we do to convince them of the lack of safety of these machines? Or are they just lost causes?
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Originally Posted by Caradoc
(Post 19270482)
They're lost causes. For whatever reason, they've decided that it's perfectly reasonable to put their personal safety into the hands of a collective of GED-bearing knuckle-dragging clerks who're all convinced they're smarter than doctors and represent the vanguard of National Security.
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Ask him flat out whether he would feel safe flying if the checkpoints reverted to their pre-TSA state of metal detectors and bag x-rays. If he pulls the 9/11™ card, describe the changes that will prevent another 9/11-style attack from recurring. Explain the financial costs of AIT and that it is actually less effective as a security tool that old-fashioned metal detectors. Explain that AIT slows down the lines, and that by amassing more people before the actual checkpoint, AIT is putting him at a greater risk of someone choosing to attack the actual checkpoint.
If he still fails to understand, then give up. |
The sky is falling; the sky is falling
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'Cuz your dad (along with me and a few others past our prime) grew up when medical XRays were frequent and at far higher dosages than today's, as children were taken by our parents to be fitted at shoe stores with "Shoe-Scope" fluoroscope XRay machines, and by "current" standards were "radiated" far more than the modern "sensitive" folks would tolerate. Of course, many of us were also "OD"ed on pencillinn and the second generation miracle antibiotics for non-serious and often wrongfully treated illnesses, making us the vectors by which all sorts of infectious agents could mutate to become resistant. Then we ran down the street in the tail plumes of the regular mosquito spraying trucks, dined on fruits and veggies laden with insecticides, and even if not in Viet Nam sure absorbed a spectrum of herbicides near as carcinogenic and dangerous as Agent Orange.
But then, I can recall seriously and liberally "dusting" a small Italian orphanage and its tenants with DDT. In retrospect, it wasn't wise, but then neither was living in a tiny ship's stateroom through which a large lagged steam pipe passed. of course, the "lagging" was packed with asbestos fibers, thumped by every catapult shot into the air I breathed. If I'm going to worry, I guess I'll worry about the risk factor from that exposure. I forgot all the dust from 3 years of life with constant exposure to the dust from lead paint, a practice which on old ships was constant as long as it was light enough to see. Maybe, at his age and my age, we're simply not too worried that a little more radiation by the TSA is likely to be a threat to our health. For your dad and me (and others), there ain't no do-overs. |
Originally Posted by TMOliver
(Post 19270850)
'Cuz your dad (along with me and a few others past our prime) grew up when medical XRays were frequent and at far higher dosages than today's, as children were taken by our parents to be fitted at shoe stores with "Shoe-Scope" fluoroscope XRay machines, and by "current" standards were "radiated" far more than the modern "sensitive" folks would tolerate. Of course, many of us were also "OD"ed on pencillinn and the second generation miracle antibiotics for non-serious and often wrongfully treated illnesses, making us the vectors by which all sorts of infectious agents could mutate to become resistant. Then we ran down the street in the tail plumes of the regular mosquito spraying trucks, dined on fruits and veggies laden with insecticides, and even if not in Viet Nam sure absorbed a spectrum of herbicides near as carcinogenic and dangerous as Agent Orange.
But then, I can recall seriously and liberally "dusting" a small Italian orphanage and its tenants with DDT. In retrospect, it wasn't wise, but then neither was living in a tiny ship's stateroom through which a large lagged steam pipe passed. of course, the "lagging" was packed with asbestos fibers, thumped by every catapult shot into the air I breathed. If I'm going to worry, I guess I'll worry about the risk factor from that exposure. Maybe, at his age and my age, we're simply not too worried that a little more radiation by the TSA is likely to be a threat to our health. For your dad and me (and others), there ain't no do-overs. |
Originally Posted by tkey75
(Post 19270869)
Honestly, I see that last paragraph the same way I see a smoker saying 'Well, something's gotta kill me'.
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If you're worried about the health risks, then my opinion is that it's your dad's decision to make. It's his body, after all.
What frustrates me is his answer that "everybody's doing it." The whole conformity and AFS nonsense really bothers me. I wish people cared more about their rights and their relationship with the government. |
Originally Posted by tkey75
(Post 19270869)
Honestly, I see that last paragraph the same way I see a smoker saying 'Well, something's gotta kill me'.
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Originally Posted by marvanit
(Post 19270878)
And why do you care? It doesn't affect you or anyone else. If his dad doesn't want to hassle with opt out, why does that affect us?
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People have to make the choices that are best for them....and for a lot of travelers, it is much more complex than just opting out or walking through a scanner.
I typically opt out of both types of scanners (though I *never* use the term "opt out.") But I have, twice, I think, made a decision (for reasons of my own) to go through a MMW scanner. I expect my decision to be respected -- whatever it is -- and so it's pretty compelling for me to respect the decisions other people make. |
Originally Posted by TheGolfWidow
(Post 19272296)
People have to make the choices that are best for them....and for a lot of travelers, it is much more complex than just opting out or walking through a scanner.
I typically opt out of both types of scanners (though I *never* use the term "opt out.") But I have, twice, I think, made a decision (for reasons of my own) to go through a MMW scanner. I expect my decision to be respected -- whatever it is -- and so it's pretty compelling for me to respect the decisions other people make. |
Originally Posted by jco613
(Post 19272578)
My problem is my dad's comment that "everyone else is doing it". Seems a bit ignorant, no?
This may be a new development - senile dementia? |
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