Luggage opened
#1
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Join Date: Nov 2010
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Luggage opened
I thought a lock would deter them but no. The color indicator turned to red and I got a note inside. They rifled through my underwear, I guess. No valuables.Yuck. And embarrassing. Small airport, small community. Feel invaded.
Two questions:
What were they looking for? I had clothes, shoes, a few utensils and some toiletries and food (long trip w/o food and late arrival). I had (possibly still have, too tired to check) a small pen knife. That's about it. What aroused their suspicion, or is it just random?
Second, I'm actually disgusted by this and would like to wash everything but due to the lateness of the hour and exhaustion I don't think this would be possible even tomorrow. Do you think they touched my stuff with the same gloves they rub groins with? I'm not joking, I'm worried...
#2
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I thought a lock would deter them but no. The color indicator turned to red and I got a note inside. They rifled through my underwear, I guess. No valuables.Yuck. And embarrassing. Small airport, small community. Feel invaded.
Two questions:
What were they looking for? I had clothes, shoes, a few utensils and some toiletries and food (long trip w/o food and late arrival). I had (possibly still have, too tired to check) a small pen knife. That's about it. What aroused their suspicion, or is it just random?
Second, I'm actually disgusted by this and would like to wash everything but due to the lateness of the hour and exhaustion I don't think this would be possible even tomorrow. Do you think they touched my stuff with the same gloves they rub groins with? I'm not joking, I'm worried...
Get some sleep, empty the bag out tomorrow, wash everything and try to put it behind you. There's nothing else you can do.
The only thing their gloves (if they were wearing them) touched was themselves and other folks' belongings. Wash your belongings and try to wash the memory out of your mind.
It doesn't matter what they were looking for: curiosity, hoping to steal, random target. It's over.
#3
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 142
Also, unfortunately, it too often appears that when they see a lock - it's grounds for an immediate search. (/sarc) After all, if you have nothing to hide, why would you lock it? (/end sarc)
#4
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,119
I don't know if it really makes a difference - I've switched to using packing cubes. It make it real easy for the screener to lift out the clothes and find my suspicious suntan lotion or books. I feel less like my things have been pawed through.
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#6
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Not worth a second's thought. Very clear that TSA has the authority to search and does so on both a random and targeted basis. Whether your bag was just the unlucky random bag or there was anything from a piece of odd-looking something, a piece of clothing folded so that one part was more dense, a good item, a wire/cable or whatever, is of no consequence.
If you are a regular traveler who still checks luggage, you should expect it regularly.
If you are a regular traveler who still checks luggage, you should expect it regularly.
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Not worth a second's thought. Very clear that TSA has the authority to search and does so on both a random and targeted basis. Whether your bag was just the unlucky random bag or there was anything from a piece of odd-looking something, a piece of clothing folded so that one part was more dense, a good item, a wire/cable or whatever, is of no consequence.
If you are a regular traveler who still checks luggage, you should expect it regularly.
If you are a regular traveler who still checks luggage, you should expect it regularly.
As for "not worth a second's thought" - I admire your steely ability to shrug off folks randomly pawing through your luggage on a whim. I'm sure you'd feel the same if you came home and a burglar had ransacked your home while looking for something to steal. You wouldn't give it a second thought, because hey, it happens.
No need to point out that it should not be happening. No need to point out that it only happens with a sloppy, unprofessional work force - and the odds are that sloppy, unprofessional workers are less likely to stay focused on their mission.
#9


Join Date: Jul 2006
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Unless a baggage-screening TSO cares to enlighten us that the SOP requires glove changes between bag-tosses.
#10

Join Date: Feb 2008
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You may find the idea of a stranger with questionable hygiene pawing through your clean, intimate clothing to be arousing, professionally interesting, or irrelevant. You have a right to those feelings, however bland or bizarre. You don't have a right to expect others to share them, nor consider yours the only "normal" ones.
I regularly see TSA personnel picking their noses, scratching themselves, or handling dirty surfaces while wearing their gloves. I have never seen one then immediately discard the gloves! So I assume the resulting traces of body fluids, soil etc. are then deposited on any of my belongings they touch.
Some few situationsbasic training, prisonallow a person's belongings to be seized and dumped on the floor at any time. Random checks of innocent travelers' property do not legitimately fall into that category.
Going through soft clothing packsor having underwear unfolded and displayed atop other clothing, as happened to some women leaving PHX in 2007-2008adds nothing to security, is repugnant to a great many people, and introduces public health risks that are potentially devastating.
I regularly see TSA personnel picking their noses, scratching themselves, or handling dirty surfaces while wearing their gloves. I have never seen one then immediately discard the gloves! So I assume the resulting traces of body fluids, soil etc. are then deposited on any of my belongings they touch.
Some few situationsbasic training, prisonallow a person's belongings to be seized and dumped on the floor at any time. Random checks of innocent travelers' property do not legitimately fall into that category.
Going through soft clothing packsor having underwear unfolded and displayed atop other clothing, as happened to some women leaving PHX in 2007-2008adds nothing to security, is repugnant to a great many people, and introduces public health risks that are potentially devastating.
#12
Join Date: Nov 2011
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No, no it doesn't. Per SOP, gloves only have to be changed when they're dirty or torn, or changed/cleaned when the ETD alarms.
#14
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,425
Just paw those lady's lingerie all you want, steal them if it suits you. Who are we to object?
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects..."
That's not worth a second's thought. What's not worth a second's thought is the continued existence of your whole, sorry organization.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects..."
That's not worth a second's thought. What's not worth a second's thought is the continued existence of your whole, sorry organization.
#15
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,195
I thought a lock would deter them but no. The color indicator turned to red and I got a note inside. They rifled through my underwear, I guess. No valuables.Yuck. And embarrassing. Small airport, small community. Feel invaded.
Two questions:
What were they looking for? I had clothes, shoes, a few utensils and some toiletries and food (long trip w/o food and late arrival). I had (possibly still have, too tired to check) a small pen knife. That's about it. What aroused their suspicion, or is it just random?
Second, I'm actually disgusted by this and would like to wash everything but due to the lateness of the hour and exhaustion I don't think this would be possible even tomorrow. Do you think they touched my stuff with the same gloves they rub groins with? I'm not joking, I'm worried...
Ahh well, life is never what we wish it to be.



