International Shoe Removal Inconsistency
May 29, 2012, 12:38 pm
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I don't think it's the US insisting that Korea, and only Korea (and apparently Canada) make pax flying to the US take their shoes off. If that was the case, every country would be requiring it, and they aren't.
It's the same thing with water - HKG and a few other airports do not allow it, but NRT and many other airports do.
It seems like the local airport authority or government decides to institute these stupid policies on their own.
On another note, CMB requires shoe removal for everyone.
It's the same thing with water - HKG and a few other airports do not allow it, but NRT and many other airports do.
It seems like the local airport authority or government decides to institute these stupid policies on their own.
On another note, CMB requires shoe removal for everyone.
I think whether or not it's enforced depends on the country. I think there are things that TSA
If the US didn't care about it, then I don't think ICN would waste its time doing it. The fact that they're doing it only for US flagged/bound flights shows that there is definitely US influence there. It's not required for other countries.
May 30, 2012, 12:30 am
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Same with those in Hong Kong thinking that they need to ban all liquids from US and Australia bound flights, when most other countries are fine with stuff obtained in the sterile area. Just a bunch of idiots that think they may loose their kush government job if some guy tries to blow up a plane (even though the chances of that are slim to none).
May 30, 2012, 7:21 am
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If it was just some clueless buffoon reading too much into suggestions, why would all of Canada participate at every single airport? I do think that you are underestimating the force and power of a country which can bully other countries into doing something. The ability to ban all flights from one country to the US is powerful, especially for countries such as Canada which have so many flights per day.
It's easy enough for some posters to tell other countries to stand up to the US, but it isn't that easy for a country to take that risk. The same holds true for having to provide information to the US government about passengers not even flying TO the US.
It's easy enough for some posters to tell other countries to stand up to the US, but it isn't that easy for a country to take that risk. The same holds true for having to provide information to the US government about passengers not even flying TO the US.
May 30, 2012, 11:30 am
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The Canadian government has shown for a long time that they will do whatever the USA tells them to with regards to our "security" procedures. They are a lapdog in that respect. Korea seems to subscribe to this theater for some idiotic reason - as I have yet to encounter another country (except Canada) that imposes this stupidity on US-Bound flights.
Hundreds of other countries are standing up to the US and not requiring Shoe Removal... Now only if some of them would stop bowing down to jetbridge liquids checks, which I find even more annoying.
Hundreds of other countries are standing up to the US and not requiring Shoe Removal... Now only if some of them would stop bowing down to jetbridge liquids checks, which I find even more annoying.
May 30, 2012, 12:03 pm
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But in Canada due to pre-clearance it is easy to force shoe removal as it is an isolated area of the airport for US flights. It doesn't work that way elsewhere, hence much more difficult for the US to bully other countries into their games.
I refuse to make excuses for the bully, and to blame the victims of the bully. The US could change the rules, but choose not to.
I refuse to make excuses for the bully, and to blame the victims of the bully. The US could change the rules, but choose not to.
Jun 1, 2012, 12:19 am
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Jun 1, 2012, 1:33 am
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Just before we boarded our DEL-EWR flight in January there was quite a last-minute ritual at the boarding gate that I inferred occurred because it was a US-bound flight. Shoes off, everything out of pockets (IIRC) and the most thorough search we'd experienced during our time in India, where searches occur before boarding the rapid transit.