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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Pesky Monkey
Nope. At DCA I went to the dedicated precheck lane and got through. Since my final destination was international I got the scope or grope. Same with several travelers behind me. We were all a bit perplexed.
So you received an LLL from the scanner? How did the TSA know your final destination?
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by 14940674
So you received an LLL from the scanner? How did the TSA know your final destination?
Participation in PreCheck gives the TSA access to the PNR.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Ari
Participation in PreCheck gives the TSA access to the PNR.
I understand, but once the BP scans LLL at the airport, I find it difficult to believe that the TSA continues to discriminate between passengers based on final destination. Is the TDC even able to view the final destination?
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Old May 1, 2012 | 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by Ari
Participation in PreCheck gives the TSA access to the PNR.
Supposedly the machine at the airport only checks the portion of the PNR encoded into that boarding pass. If the BP scans LLL, it should be your ticket to the trusted line regardless of anything else in the PNR. Unless, of course, the ID checker is asking questions about your destination and then singling you out for the grope.

That's the way it's supposed to work....

International info in the PNR would be determined at the SecureFright checks, which then should inhibit the LLL from ever appearing.
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Old May 1, 2012 | 6:41 am
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Originally Posted by N830MH
Right, he have to ask politely. He have respect with TSA and don't try to arguing with the screener. Let's TSA doing their job. Then you can go through at security. He have listen with the screener.
No, that's not what he said at all. He was being sarcastic. What he was saying was that agents at SLC allow non-Pre Check people in the Pre Check lane [sarcastically] if you ask nicely. I've seen this first hand myself. I'm Pre Check and a coworker isn't. When I went through at SLC the agent scanned my boarding pass and my coworker's but ended up directly both of us to the Pre Check lane.

If you follow the train of thought that says the TSA isn't all theatre - and this Pre -Check program actually screens out low risk travelers - then letting non-selected passengers through the line would be a "huge security risk".
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Old May 1, 2012 | 9:07 am
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hi to you all this is my first post

I live in the uk will be in the use in aug, went to fill out the pre api details on the airline web site, On the part for tsa it already had a green tick for trusted traveler, I did wonder what it ment
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Old May 14, 2012 | 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by 14940674
So you received an LLL from the scanner? How did the TSA know your final destination?
And if you buy a refundable domestic ticket, and clear security based on the bording pass from that, so getting the reduced scope check, is Western civilization as we know it finis?
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Old May 14, 2012 | 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by NY-FLA
And if you buy a refundable domestic ticket, and clear security based on the bording pass from that, so getting the reduced scope check, is Western civilization as we know it finis?
This is exactly why I was saying that the TSA should not perform further vetting of PreCheck-approved pax at the airport.
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Old May 14, 2012 | 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
International info in the PNR would be determined at the SecureFright checks, which then should inhibit the LLL from ever appearing.
That's exactly how its supposed to work; LLL should be inhibited from any BP for flights connecting to an international segment. If people connecting to international flights are getting LLL (and that doesn't seem to be confirmed in this thread), either the rules have changed or the PreCheck computer is making mistakes.
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