Nashville TSA Agent Charged With Statutory Rape
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statutory_rape
Usually past puberty and consenting. No further info to go on, other than it is most likely a consenting situation with a female minor that is not legally able to give that consent.
This has nothing to do with TSA, other than the individual works(ed) there.
Usually past puberty and consenting. No further info to go on, other than it is most likely a consenting situation with a female minor that is not legally able to give that consent.
This has nothing to do with TSA, other than the individual works(ed) there.
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Even without knowing further details, the idea of this guy (or any TSO) being at the checkpoint disgusts me.
Yeah, I know background checks can't catch everything, bla-bla. But next time you see an attractive young girl frisked while some sleaze in a blue uniform stands gawking, I will think of this guy and his illegal pursuits.
BTW, please understand. Personally, I think any TSO who stands and gawks at a patdown, particularly of someone of the opposite sex, is a sleaze who deserves to be fired.
Yeah, I know background checks can't catch everything, bla-bla. But next time you see an attractive young girl frisked while some sleaze in a blue uniform stands gawking, I will think of this guy and his illegal pursuits.
BTW, please understand. Personally, I think any TSO who stands and gawks at a patdown, particularly of someone of the opposite sex, is a sleaze who deserves to be fired.
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'Statutory rape' can range from being a heinous criminal act to a nanny-state charge depending on the jurisdiction and the facts and circumstances of a given case; it is unreasonable to draw conclusions about what happened from the name of this charge alone.
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Permission to enter applicable law into the record?
Tennessee Law
Title 39 Criminal Offenses
Part 5 Sexual Offenses
Chapter 13 Offenses Against Person
39-13-506 Statutory Rape:
(a) Mitigated statutory rape is the unlawful sexual penetration of a victim by the defendant, or of the defendant by the victim when the victim is at least fifteen (15) but less than eighteen (18) years of age and the defendant is at least four (4) but not more than five (5) years older than the victim.
(b) Statutory rape is the unlawful sexual penetration of a victim by the defendant or of the defendant by the victim when:
1. The victim is at least thirteen (13) but less than fifteen (15) years of age and the defendant is at least four (4) years older than the victim; or
2. The victim is at least fifteen (15) but less than eighteen (18) years of age and the defendant is more than five (5) years older than the victim.
(c) Aggravated statutory rape is the unlawful sexual penetration of a victim by the defendant, or of the defendant by the victim when the victim is at least thirteen (13) but less than eighteen (18) years of age and the defendant is at least ten (10) years older than the victim.
[Acts 1989, ch. 591, § 1; 1990, ch. 980, § 4; 1994, ch. 719, § 1; 2005, ch. 487, § 4; 2006, ch. 890, § 5.]
Tennessee Law
Title 39 Criminal Offenses
Part 5 Sexual Offenses
Chapter 13 Offenses Against Person
39-13-528 Offense of solicitation of a minor:
(a) It is an offense for a person eighteen (18) years of age or older, by means of oral, written or electronic communication, electronic mail or Internet services, directly or through another, to intentionally command, request, hire, persuade, invite or attempt to induce a person whom the person making the solicitation knows, or should know, is less than eighteen (18) years of age, or solicits a law enforcement officer posing as a minor, and whom the person making the solicitation reasonably believes to be less than eighteen (18) years of age, to engage in conduct that, if completed, would constitute a violation by the soliciting adult of one (1) or more of the following offenses:
(1) Rape of a child, pursuant to § 39-13-522;
(2) Aggravated rape, pursuant to § 39-13-502;
(3) Rape, pursuant to § 39-13-503;
(4) Aggravated sexual battery, pursuant to § 39-13-504;
(5) Sexual battery by an authority figure, pursuant to § 39-13-527;
(6) Sexual battery, pursuant to § 39-13-505;
(7) Statutory rape, pursuant to § 39-13-506;
(8) Especially aggravated sexual exploitation of a minor, pursuant to § 39-17-1005; or
(9) Sexual activity involving a minor, pursuant to § 39-13-529.
(b) It is no defense that the solicitation was unsuccessful, that the conduct solicited was not engaged in, or that the law enforcement officer could not engage in the solicited offense. It is no defense that the minor solicited was unaware of the criminal nature of the conduct solicited.
(c) A violation of this section shall constitute an offense one (1) classification lower than the most serious crime solicited, unless the offense solicited was a Class E felony, in which case the offense shall be a Class A misdemeanor.
(d) A person is subject to prosecution in this state under this section for any conduct that originates in this state, or for any conduct that originates by a person located outside this state, where the person solicited the conduct of a minor located in this state, or solicited a law enforcement officer posing as a minor located within this state.
[Acts 1998, ch. 1007, § 1; 2000, ch. 944, § 1; 2005, ch. 496, § 5.]
Title 39 Criminal Offenses
Part 5 Sexual Offenses
Chapter 13 Offenses Against Person
39-13-506 Statutory Rape:
(a) Mitigated statutory rape is the unlawful sexual penetration of a victim by the defendant, or of the defendant by the victim when the victim is at least fifteen (15) but less than eighteen (18) years of age and the defendant is at least four (4) but not more than five (5) years older than the victim.
(b) Statutory rape is the unlawful sexual penetration of a victim by the defendant or of the defendant by the victim when:
1. The victim is at least thirteen (13) but less than fifteen (15) years of age and the defendant is at least four (4) years older than the victim; or
2. The victim is at least fifteen (15) but less than eighteen (18) years of age and the defendant is more than five (5) years older than the victim.
(c) Aggravated statutory rape is the unlawful sexual penetration of a victim by the defendant, or of the defendant by the victim when the victim is at least thirteen (13) but less than eighteen (18) years of age and the defendant is at least ten (10) years older than the victim.
[Acts 1989, ch. 591, § 1; 1990, ch. 980, § 4; 1994, ch. 719, § 1; 2005, ch. 487, § 4; 2006, ch. 890, § 5.]
Tennessee Law
Title 39 Criminal Offenses
Part 5 Sexual Offenses
Chapter 13 Offenses Against Person
39-13-528 Offense of solicitation of a minor:
(a) It is an offense for a person eighteen (18) years of age or older, by means of oral, written or electronic communication, electronic mail or Internet services, directly or through another, to intentionally command, request, hire, persuade, invite or attempt to induce a person whom the person making the solicitation knows, or should know, is less than eighteen (18) years of age, or solicits a law enforcement officer posing as a minor, and whom the person making the solicitation reasonably believes to be less than eighteen (18) years of age, to engage in conduct that, if completed, would constitute a violation by the soliciting adult of one (1) or more of the following offenses:
(1) Rape of a child, pursuant to § 39-13-522;
(2) Aggravated rape, pursuant to § 39-13-502;
(3) Rape, pursuant to § 39-13-503;
(4) Aggravated sexual battery, pursuant to § 39-13-504;
(5) Sexual battery by an authority figure, pursuant to § 39-13-527;
(6) Sexual battery, pursuant to § 39-13-505;
(7) Statutory rape, pursuant to § 39-13-506;
(8) Especially aggravated sexual exploitation of a minor, pursuant to § 39-17-1005; or
(9) Sexual activity involving a minor, pursuant to § 39-13-529.
(b) It is no defense that the solicitation was unsuccessful, that the conduct solicited was not engaged in, or that the law enforcement officer could not engage in the solicited offense. It is no defense that the minor solicited was unaware of the criminal nature of the conduct solicited.
(c) A violation of this section shall constitute an offense one (1) classification lower than the most serious crime solicited, unless the offense solicited was a Class E felony, in which case the offense shall be a Class A misdemeanor.
(d) A person is subject to prosecution in this state under this section for any conduct that originates in this state, or for any conduct that originates by a person located outside this state, where the person solicited the conduct of a minor located in this state, or solicited a law enforcement officer posing as a minor located within this state.
[Acts 1998, ch. 1007, § 1; 2000, ch. 944, § 1; 2005, ch. 496, § 5.]
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Cite? I think you're making a very broad statement.
A 19-year-old having sex with a 16-year-old is one thing.
A 22-year-old having sex with a 13-year-old may legally fall into the same category, but I find it hard to believe that the younger partners in such relationships emerge unscathed.
A 19-year-old having sex with a 16-year-old is one thing.
A 22-year-old having sex with a 13-year-old may legally fall into the same category, but I find it hard to believe that the younger partners in such relationships emerge unscathed.
And other than pregnancy/STD issues why would you expect the 13 year old to be harmed anyway? The age of consent is about whether someone is reasonably able to handle the risks, not about harm.
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Yeah. I've heard of cases that involved nothing more than a pickup in a singles bar--oops, she had a false ID. It's a strict liability offense, the government generally doesn't care that you were fooled.
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It was also after the Grand Jury issued an indictment.
One would assume the normal pattern would be he would be arrested, released on bail or bond, and then it would go to the grand jury to see if they were going to go on with it or not.
The lack of any details is also pretty strange. No age of the victim, not if it's male or female, etc.
One would assume the normal pattern would be he would be arrested, released on bail or bond, and then it would go to the grand jury to see if they were going to go on with it or not.
The lack of any details is also pretty strange. No age of the victim, not if it's male or female, etc.
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Seriously, I see the trial now, victim on the stand, crying, attempting to maintain composure, saying: "He... he... he... (sob, sniffle) never told me he worked for TSA, I feel so, so, so used, and violated (bursts into uncontrollable sobs)"
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A few more details from wgnsradio.com
An investigation in 2010 conducted by La Vergne Detective John Eubank led to an arrest Tuesday of an agent with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Clinton Lyle was identified as a statutory rape suspect and evidence was presented to a Rutherford County grand jury. An indictment was returned in 2010 after Lyle was connected to a local victim.
The U.S. Marshal Service was asked to aid in the search for Lyle and marshals apprehended him in Tennessee. Lyle was booked in the Rutherford County Jail on September 20, 2011.
Because the indictment was sealed, no further information will be released by the LaVergne Police Department at this time.
So this story makes it sound like they have been looking for him for a while.
An investigation in 2010 conducted by La Vergne Detective John Eubank led to an arrest Tuesday of an agent with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Clinton Lyle was identified as a statutory rape suspect and evidence was presented to a Rutherford County grand jury. An indictment was returned in 2010 after Lyle was connected to a local victim.
The U.S. Marshal Service was asked to aid in the search for Lyle and marshals apprehended him in Tennessee. Lyle was booked in the Rutherford County Jail on September 20, 2011.
Because the indictment was sealed, no further information will be released by the LaVergne Police Department at this time.
So this story makes it sound like they have been looking for him for a while.
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A few more details from wgnsradio.com
An investigation in 2010 conducted by La Vergne Detective John Eubank led to an arrest Tuesday of an agent with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Clinton Lyle was identified as a statutory rape suspect and evidence was presented to a Rutherford County grand jury. An indictment was returned in 2010 after Lyle was connected to a local victim.
The U.S. Marshal Service was asked to aid in the search for Lyle and marshals apprehended him in Tennessee. Lyle was booked in the Rutherford County Jail on September 20, 2011.
Because the indictment was sealed, no further information will be released by the LaVergne Police Department at this time.
So this story makes it sound like they have been looking for him for a while.
An investigation in 2010 conducted by La Vergne Detective John Eubank led to an arrest Tuesday of an agent with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). Clinton Lyle was identified as a statutory rape suspect and evidence was presented to a Rutherford County grand jury. An indictment was returned in 2010 after Lyle was connected to a local victim.
The U.S. Marshal Service was asked to aid in the search for Lyle and marshals apprehended him in Tennessee. Lyle was booked in the Rutherford County Jail on September 20, 2011.
Because the indictment was sealed, no further information will be released by the LaVergne Police Department at this time.
So this story makes it sound like they have been looking for him for a while.
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So how long has he been working at BNA? The background check didn't work? (I'm shocked) If law enforcement is looking for someone, can't they find them in a ~federal~ employee database if they are employed by such an agency at least? Huh? Why did it take so long to find him? There he was, all dressed in gaudy blue...
This is unsettling. I don't lay awake nights worrying about terrorists getting past the checkpoint. As others have noted, our 'security theater' might catch idiots, but it is far less likely to catch professionals.
I do have concern when TSA's ranks get infiltrated. The BDO in BUF was one wake-up call. Now these clowns in NJ/FLL that even offered to get a gun into the sterile area.
Now we've got a guy that the feds are looking for who shows up at work every day and the feds still take almost a year to find him? If they can't find a US citizen working for a government agency, how likely are they to be able to find someone who has overstayed their visa and 'disappeared'?
Sorry to display such profound ignorance of the legal process.
If he (or anyone) is indicted but not yet picked up/arrested, would anything show up on a routine background check?
(I know this guy may have been working for TSA prior to the indictment - I'm asking out of general curiosity)
Last edited by chollie; Sep 22, 2011 at 11:56 am Reason: add question