No boating list?
Sep 13, 2011 | 7:52 pm
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Programs: JAL, ANA
Posts: 119
No boating list?
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/...l_8675196.html
So this guy can't fly due to being on the no fly list and as a dual US Italian citizen wants to return to Italy. He takes a ocean liner to england and is taken off ship before the cruise ship arrives in england as he was on the no fly list.
This seems crazy if you can't leave the country. Does this apply to trains as well? Seems like it would be an issue even if you are trying to go from Hawaii to the CONUS.
So this guy can't fly due to being on the no fly list and as a dual US Italian citizen wants to return to Italy. He takes a ocean liner to england and is taken off ship before the cruise ship arrives in england as he was on the no fly list.
This seems crazy if you can't leave the country. Does this apply to trains as well? Seems like it would be an issue even if you are trying to go from Hawaii to the CONUS.
Sep 14, 2011 | 7:15 am
#2
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 627
Why do other countries even still listen to the USA?
It looks like, now, the no-fly list prohibits you from:
- Flights into, out of, or within the USA.
- Flights that touch US airspace.
- Flights with emergency-diversion plans that touch US airports or US airspace.
- Taking the QM2 from Brooklyn to Southampton, my preferred (though I've never done it) way to cross the pond.
So what's left if you want to "escape" to Europe?
- Passenger on a freight ship, which you can book all over the place on the Internet.
- Greyhound to Mexico City, fly from Mexico City to Buenos Aires, then Buenos Aires to Europe, thus bypassing US airspace.
It looks like, now, the no-fly list prohibits you from:
- Flights into, out of, or within the USA.
- Flights that touch US airspace.
- Flights with emergency-diversion plans that touch US airports or US airspace.
- Taking the QM2 from Brooklyn to Southampton, my preferred (though I've never done it) way to cross the pond.
So what's left if you want to "escape" to Europe?
- Passenger on a freight ship, which you can book all over the place on the Internet.
- Greyhound to Mexico City, fly from Mexico City to Buenos Aires, then Buenos Aires to Europe, thus bypassing US airspace.
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2011/...l_8675196.html
So this guy can't fly due to being on the no fly list and as a dual US Italian citizen wants to return to Italy. He takes a ocean liner to england and is taken off ship before the cruise ship arrives in england as he was on the no fly list.
This seems crazy if you can't leave the country. Does this apply to trains as well? Seems like it would be an issue even if you are trying to go from Hawaii to the CONUS.
So this guy can't fly due to being on the no fly list and as a dual US Italian citizen wants to return to Italy. He takes a ocean liner to england and is taken off ship before the cruise ship arrives in england as he was on the no fly list.
This seems crazy if you can't leave the country. Does this apply to trains as well? Seems like it would be an issue even if you are trying to go from Hawaii to the CONUS.