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The progression is all about making the public submissive to their authoritah.
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This will solve the problem and speed things up at the airports.
All passengers fly naked with nothing with them, everything has to be checked so we would not need TSA anymore, just making sure only naked bodies with nothing approach the gate. Opps, this will not work, you could be hiding something dangeous in your back end so we would need a back end checker. |
Originally Posted by LuvAirFrance
(Post 15515094)
A vacuum bottle has a space between the outer shell and the inner bottle. Something could be inserted in that space. It would no longer be a vacuum bottle, but could become a bomb.
Originally Posted by sbagdon
(Post 15515549)
That's where I went. The special-training is probably to look for breaks in the glue/sonic-welding, in case someone tries to replace the insulation with some other material. So if you have a favorite mug that's split and you've glued together... expect special attention.
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I wish I knew about this this morning, instead of learning it as i went through security a bit ago! And here I was so pleased with myself for finally bringing a regular water bottle instead of the disposable plastic water/soda bottles I usually bring.
Anyway, I don't know about any visual inspections that might have been done, but apparently the new mandate is that for such bottles, the entire outside must be swabbed, as must the hands of its owner. They were perfectly polite about it all, but the level of ridiculousness just keeps increasing...We had so many bins (separate bin for laptop, separate bin for the liquid medicine and the magic baggie, etc), then after collecting everything, hung out at the end to get the bottle swabbed, me swabbed (after getting my "too baggy" t-shirt patted down, although not overly intrusively, relatively speaking), the medicine opened to the little test strip.... Sigh. On the plus side, they were polite, and professional, and kind to my child and never harassed her, and the whole thing didn't take very long at all. It's just so misguided though. |
Originally Posted by goalie
(Post 15514544)
And the Secret Service wrestled the insulaled beverage container to the ground.
Followed by the tv remote... Followed by a fifty cent piece... Followed by the cigar humidor... Followed by... Followed by... |
Originally Posted by birdstrike
(Post 15517683)
Originally Posted by goalie
(Post 15514544)
And the Secret Service wrestled the insulaled beverage container to the ground.
Followed by the tv remote... Followed by a fifty cent piece... Followed by the cigar humidor... Followed by... Followed by... |
So let me get this straight, or could someone explain it better - as I've been thinking about it while driving past our local airports earlier (not flying lately :mad:) - the bad guy(s) or gal(s) would need some sort of detonator device - to be wired up and/or connected to these insulated mugs, water bottles and thermos, or whatever, for the device to explode. No ??
I can just imagine this - "Security Alert - Memo to FA: :td: watch & report all pax taking their personal mugs or water bottles to the bathroom .... as they are likely to fill (arm?) it and blow it up (the plane?) once it's assembled in the bathroom :confused: " The security theater shows get better & stranger with each passing days :eek: Wonder if the airport Starbucks will now be "instructed" to remove, discontinue and stop selling insulated mugs and thermos, etc. at their terminal locations - "sorry, only paper cups permitted .... in the interest of protecting the flying public" :rolleyes: |
There goes my coffee mug collection from Starbuck's and Tim Horton's.
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so what's gonna happen at the airside Dunk's at IAD's UA terminal (in the middle between the C & D gates) where I bought this? The TSA gonna inspect all of them?
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/m/mEhL...myEnpQ/140.jpg TSO: So what's in your cup ME: Coffee TSO: Do you mind if we inspect the cup Me: Why, do you want one? You do know that you can walk right over there <pointing to the airside Dunkin' Donuts> and buy one just like I did not less than 5 minutes ago. :rolleyes: |
Passengers are evil. It's time this TSA meme is exposed front and center.
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They are just slowly making their way through MacGyver episodes and seeing how one might build a bomb from seemingly benign objects.
Clearly, liquids (and those materials with the potential to be liquid) are only safe if divided into 100 mL compartments before being loaded into a 1 quart compartment (please note intent to confuse by mixing metric and English units). Also, although the fact that something melts at the same temperature as water makes it much more likely to be water (which is provided to those needing water for dangerous concoctions free of charge on board), it is not allowed on board. Other materials which the geniuses at the TSA do not know about that may be solid at room temperature yet melt easily with some pressure or added temperature may pass through undetected. I do not know whether there is a limit to a volume of gas allowed through security, but the absence any material surrounding a container is dangerous. Who knows what might one day fill that space. Shoes are dangerous because if one runs around too quickly on the plane it may knock the plane out of the sky. Certainly, very thin shoes still need to be x-rayed. Really thick socks, I'm not sure. Also, a jacket or sweatshirt must come off before going through a metal detector. I believe this is defined as a article of clothing worn above the waist with either a zipper or a hoody worn over at least one article of clothing (not including a bra for women) with nothing else worn over it that would qualify as a jacket or sweatshirt. Since people hide things on their body and under their clothes, it's reasonable to toss a bit of total body ionizing radiation at everyone. Even if it's a 1 in 10 million chance of causing skin cancer, skin cancer doesn't have it's own ribbon or color or month, and that's only 4.4 new cancers caused when screening 44 million travelers over Christmas. Happy holidays! Oh, and since it only penetrates the skin, the many obese Americans with folds of skin can continue to hide things under their folds. Luckily, terrorists usually do not have time to eat much due to time spent scheming to turn eyeglasses into a dangerous object. Laptops must travel through the x-ray machine, with nothing on top. Whether something is a laptop or not is up for debate. I wonder if tossing a desktop tower into a carry-on would be OK. Perhaps Mr. Steve Jobs has decided the line between laptop and a "mobile device", which is the ability to run Adobe Flash. As such, folding Android devices may be next to require their own TSA certified carrying cases or be tossed nakedly into a dirty plastic bin. Next up, the TSA will see something where a guy rubs two pencils together to light a fire and burn down a house. Then all writing utensils will be banned unless made of material which cannot catch on fire. |
Originally Posted by birdstrike
(Post 15519684)
Passengers are evil. It's time this TSA meme is exposed front and center.
I don't think gonna happens in the future. Can I allowed to brings my bottled water through at checkpoint again? No, they are not evil and they are real people in the world. |
A notice on the TSA’s website….said the warning was “based on intelligence.”
NOTHING the TSA does is “based on intelligence"......... |
NEWSFLASH...
TSA has received actionable intelligence from an anonymous source, deep inside cave HQ. The terrorists have planned to put a bomb in a suitcase or possibly a box of some sort. Since we are not capable of detecting either explosives or detonating equipment, effective immediately, neither suitcases nor cargo will be allowed on airplanes. One small personal item is still OK, as long as it doesn't resemble a box or suitcase. In our next edition of Kabuki theater monthly, we will highlight our innovative ban on anal cavities program and which airports we will be using during the pilot implementation. |
Originally Posted by ScatterX
(Post 15521536)
NEWSFLASH...
TSA has received actionable intelligence from an anonymous source, deep inside cave HQ. The terrorists have planned to put a bomb in a suitcase or possibly a box of some sort. Since we are not capable of detecting either explosives or detonating equipment, effective immediately, neither suitcases nor cargo will be allowed on airplanes. One small personal item is still OK, as long as it doesn't resemble a box or suitcase. In our next edition of Kabuki theater monthly, we will highlight our innovative ban on anal cavities program and which airports we will be using during the pilot implementation. |
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