Interrogated and Detained at IAH for Photographing
#256
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 29
There's something seriously screwed up with people in this country. I was in Starbucks last night when my friend and I saw this hilarious sign for a product. I went to order and took a picture of it, fully intent on getting some 8th grade humor with it on facebook.
The crone at the counter starts yelling at me, telling me that I can't take pictures in their store. I asked her to clarify and she said that I can't take pictures in Starbucks especially of their products. Despite the crazed lack of planning in that marketing idea, I told her that I worked for the a LE agency and that you have every right to take pictures in public. She told me she was going to call the police and I said "great. I'm sure you'll learn a lot about the law."
What is it about controlling everything in society?
The crone at the counter starts yelling at me, telling me that I can't take pictures in their store. I asked her to clarify and she said that I can't take pictures in Starbucks especially of their products. Despite the crazed lack of planning in that marketing idea, I told her that I worked for the a LE agency and that you have every right to take pictures in public. She told me she was going to call the police and I said "great. I'm sure you'll learn a lot about the law."
What is it about controlling everything in society?
#257
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
Posts: 36,062
There's something seriously screwed up with people in this country. I was in Starbucks last night when my friend and I saw this hilarious sign for a product. I went to order and took a picture of it, fully intent on getting some 8th grade humor with it on facebook.
The crone at the counter starts yelling at me, telling me that I can't take pictures in their store. I asked her to clarify and she said that I can't take pictures in Starbucks especially of their products. Despite the crazed lack of planning in that marketing idea, I told her that I worked for the a LE agency and that you have every right to take pictures in public. She told me she was going to call the police and I said "great. I'm sure you'll learn a lot about the law."
What is it about controlling everything in society?
The crone at the counter starts yelling at me, telling me that I can't take pictures in their store. I asked her to clarify and she said that I can't take pictures in Starbucks especially of their products. Despite the crazed lack of planning in that marketing idea, I told her that I worked for the a LE agency and that you have every right to take pictures in public. She told me she was going to call the police and I said "great. I'm sure you'll learn a lot about the law."
What is it about controlling everything in society?
#258
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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There's something seriously screwed up with people in this country. I was in Starbucks last night when my friend and I saw this hilarious sign for a product. I went to order and took a picture of it, fully intent on getting some 8th grade humor with it on facebook.
The crone at the counter starts yelling at me, telling me that I can't take pictures in their store. I asked her to clarify and she said that I can't take pictures in Starbucks especially of their products. Despite the crazed lack of planning in that marketing idea, I told her that I worked for the a LE agency and that you have every right to take pictures in public. She told me she was going to call the police and I said "great. I'm sure you'll learn a lot about the law."
What is it about controlling everything in society?
The crone at the counter starts yelling at me, telling me that I can't take pictures in their store. I asked her to clarify and she said that I can't take pictures in Starbucks especially of their products. Despite the crazed lack of planning in that marketing idea, I told her that I worked for the a LE agency and that you have every right to take pictures in public. She told me she was going to call the police and I said "great. I'm sure you'll learn a lot about the law."
What is it about controlling everything in society?
Edited: The lawyer beat me to it by 2 minutes, but you now have the same info from a better qualified source.
#259
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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About this issue you are, unfortunately, mistaken. Starbucks is private property and entry is by revocable license. If Starbucks (or any other store) wants to prohibit photography, it is entirely within its rights to do so. You are confusing the law regarding use of photographs taken in locations where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, which could include a Starbucks, with the right of a property owner to control the use of his property.
#260
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Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
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Many businesses do. However, they told you the restriction when you started taking pictures. As I indicated, the license to enter is revocable.
#261
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 549
About this issue you are, unfortunately, mistaken. Starbucks is private property and entry is by revocable license. If Starbucks (or any other store) wants to prohibit photography, it is entirely within its rights to do so. You are confusing the law regarding use of photographs taken in locations where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, which could include a Starbucks, with the right of a property owner to control the use of his property.
There are dozens of stories of people trying to take photos for the Starbucks Flickr who are told that Starbucks has a corporate policy against photos in its stores.
#262



Join Date: Nov 2009
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The funniest part of that is that Starbucks has a Flickr group in which they invite people to take pictures inside Starbucks stores and put them on the Starbucks Flickr group.
There are dozens of stories of people trying to take photos for the Starbucks Flickr who are told that Starbucks has a corporate policy against photos in its stores.
There are dozens of stories of people trying to take photos for the Starbucks Flickr who are told that Starbucks has a corporate policy against photos in its stores.
#263
Join Date: Apr 2003
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It was probably an attempt by an individual manager to not have their store seen in a bad condition. It's my understanding that Starbucks managers have a great deal of latitude and responsibility when it comes to their stores. They're probably afraid of somebody at corporate (or the local health department!) seeing a photo with empty cups lying around, dusty tables, newspapers strewn all over, etc.
#264
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The funniest part of that is that Starbucks has a Flickr group in which they invite people to take pictures inside Starbucks stores and put them on the Starbucks Flickr group.
There are dozens of stories of people trying to take photos for the Starbucks Flickr who are told that Starbucks has a corporate policy against photos in its stores.
There are dozens of stories of people trying to take photos for the Starbucks Flickr who are told that Starbucks has a corporate policy against photos in its stores.
Those darn creative types!
#266
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Houston
Posts: 8,957
Searching for something else, I came across this:
Other countries???
Not all of the screening process is so obvious to passengers.
Some TSA officials are trained in behavior detection. "They are not looking for a certain type of person. What does a terrorist look like?" Hardy asked. "They are trained in behavioral patterns -- facial glitches, mannerisms, expressions."
The behavior detection officers have been such a success that other countries have asked TSA for advice on training, Allen said.
Some TSA officials are trained in behavior detection. "They are not looking for a certain type of person. What does a terrorist look like?" Hardy asked. "They are trained in behavioral patterns -- facial glitches, mannerisms, expressions."
The behavior detection officers have been such a success that other countries have asked TSA for advice on training, Allen said.
#267
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: USA
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Lie to Me is not a documentary.
#268
Join Date: Mar 2007
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The TSA has strong-armed other countries into accepting their 'help' and 'training' if they want to have flights land in the US. As far as facial 'glitches' or 'microexpressions' or any of that human lie detector stuff, I think perhaps the people in charge of the TSA are not aware of this:
Lie to Me is not a documentary.
Lie to Me is not a documentary.
The pen is blue, the pen is blue, the goddamn pen is blue!
#270
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I've been asked for my SSN and said -- lied! -- that I wasn't sure I could remember it and didn't want to try because making a false statement could be breaking the law. I said that if I could remember it with absolute certainty, I would provide it, but I just couldn't. That's a lie, of course. I know my SSN by heart, as most people over the age of 10 do, but I thought my non-answer was pretty clever. They could never prove that I really did know it with certainty, and my reluctance to provide false information is sensible.



