SOP discussion
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:26 pm
#31
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Apparently few TSOs can find it in the new SOP.
I know you have to pretend that this is no big deal, but come on. This shows that the TSA can't even keep a document secure. It also shows that what the TSA deems is SSI is nothing more than a smoke and mirror set up designed to elevate the importance of the agency.
I know you have to pretend that this is no big deal, but come on. This shows that the TSA can't even keep a document secure. It also shows that what the TSA deems is SSI is nothing more than a smoke and mirror set up designed to elevate the importance of the agency.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:27 pm
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The document hit public domain and someone at DHS/TSA is in a whole lot of trouble right before Christmas. Hope they have another job lined up.
Got to resist gloating, but the smile is going to be there for at least a little while.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:29 pm
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To be honest, I did see one in Denver getting a secondary about four or five months ago. Badge off, getting the wand. The one thing I found unusual about it was that it was not done anywhere near where the screeners usually bypass the checkpoints, it was done where the passengers funnel from exiting the checkpoints to taking the escalator.
Before that, yes, it's been a very long time.
Before that, yes, it's been a very long time.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:29 pm
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But this? Nah, I see someone getting some remedial training over this.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:30 pm
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This shows that the TSA can't even keep a document secure. It also shows that what the TSA deems is SSI is nothing more than a smoke and mirror set up designed to elevate the importance of the agency.
Sort of like the uniforms third world dictators wear with all of the medals and awards on them?
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:33 pm
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Drop a copy of this at a checkpoint.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:35 pm
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Quite possible something like that was happening. Like I said before, it was done in a very awkward location. I don't know if you remember Denver's configuration, but this location has the screeners entering from the very left side of the usually short-staffed bank of checkpoints.
Now, if they were to have done it at the "normal" place screeners enter, it would have been done out of sight of the supervisor's podium (and where the suits usually stand around and do nothing but chat).
Where this screener was getting the secondary was in full and complete view of that area. Even beyond the ETD machines. It made me think they were putting on a show for passengers (see, we go through it as well-type thing), but after thinking about your reply and the set-up at Denver, it could have very well been a show for the suits.
Now, if they were to have done it at the "normal" place screeners enter, it would have been done out of sight of the supervisor's podium (and where the suits usually stand around and do nothing but chat).
Where this screener was getting the secondary was in full and complete view of that area. Even beyond the ETD machines. It made me think they were putting on a show for passengers (see, we go through it as well-type thing), but after thinking about your reply and the set-up at Denver, it could have very well been a show for the suits.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:35 pm
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To be honest, I did see one in Denver getting a secondary about four or five months ago. Badge off, getting the wand. The one thing I found unusual about it was that it was not done anywhere near where the screeners usually bypass the checkpoints, it was done where the passengers funnel from exiting the checkpoints to taking the escalator.
Before that, yes, it's been a very long time.
Before that, yes, it's been a very long time.
the usual screening location. But I wasn't there, so just guessing.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:36 pm
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WOW JUST WOW
hate monger much?
iv. If the individuals photo ID is a passport issued by the Government of Cuba, Iran, North
Korea, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq, Yemen, or Algeria, refer
the individual for selectee screening unless the individual has been exempted from selectee
screening by the FSD or aircraft operator.
Korea, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq, Yemen, or Algeria, refer
the individual for selectee screening unless the individual has been exempted from selectee
screening by the FSD or aircraft operator.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:39 pm
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Uh, HELL NO.
They'll likely do everything they can to find me and make an example of me.
I don't go to the checkpoints to cause any trouble. I like being just like everyone else, and if I run into a rogue screener, let what I know take over from there.
They'll likely do everything they can to find me and make an example of me.
I don't go to the checkpoints to cause any trouble. I like being just like everyone else, and if I run into a rogue screener, let what I know take over from there.
Dec 6, 2009 | 3:41 pm
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Dec 6, 2009 | 4:06 pm
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And your not impressed by the security protections someone in your agency used to protect this document?
