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Hmmm, anyone ever seen an agent with a "Operational Test Piece" walking back and forth through the WTMD to test it 20 times every 24 hours?
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Originally Posted by AngryMiller
(Post 12936996)
Drop a copy of this at a checkpoint.
They'll likely do everything they can to find me and make an example of me. I don't go to the checkpoints to cause any trouble. I like being just like everyone else, and if I run into a rogue screener, let what I know take over from there. |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 12937008)
Migh have been training. We do it on each other from time to time, usually away fro
the usual screening location. But I wasn't there, so just guessing. |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 12936933)
Joking, uh, yes.... Joking.... "wink" passes need your mailing address.
And really, does ANYONE know what any woman wants??? |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 12936916)
Lol This is funny, it's all so outdated!! Just to let you know, this "sop" no longer applies. With our spiffy new badges and uniforms TSA issued a directives/sop suspending the screening of TSOs entirely. Lol sorry :D
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ATTACHMENT 7-1: OPENING THE SCREENING CHECKPOINT Prior to opening a TSA Screening Checkpoint, all of the following tasks must be accomplished. TASKS: YES NO N/A 13. Required signs at the entrance to the screening checkpoint clearly displayed. So why are WBI signage not properly placed? TSA employees not properly doing their jobs? |
FWIW, this seems to be the same document that was released earlier this year and as noted in this post: http://www.papersplease.org/wp/2009/...ng-procedures/. The difference is that this one has the electronic "redactions" in it rather than being a print/scan job so it doesn't actually omit the secure stuff. The redactions officially seem to make it no longer SSI but having that "redacted" data still in the document means that it likely still is SSI. Whoopsie.
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12936946)
Not me, I once bought my wife a vacuum for Christmas. I caught hell from the wife, my three step-daughters, the women at church, and EVERY other female that learned about it.
Come on she said we need a vacuum 3 weeks before Christmas, what was I supposed to think? I think I was set up. |
I'm sure it's all being done for the children. It seems a few people at TSA may be learning a valuable lesson on the differences between the newer version of Adobe Reader and the older releaes they may likely be still using.
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Originally Posted by gsoltso
(Post 12937272)
Of course it was a setup! The only thing that I have found to be almost infallible is shiny stuff... preferably made of gold with rare rocks in them. That usually makes woman happy for at least 8.3 seconds, then they get mad because you spent all that money....
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Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 12937321)
Hey, watch it, that's how I make my living, beating the daylights out of precious metals at a bench... My work tends to be regarded as prized heirlooms, however. :p
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 12937144)
Yes!
You can't win for losing. |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 12936933)
And really, does ANYONE know what any woman wants???
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12937352)
You know what you want but if my experience has taught me anything is when you ask another woman to help you pick something, the something is always wrong.
You can't win for losing. |
Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12937352)
You know what you want but if my experience has taught me anything is when you ask another woman to help you pick something, the something is always wrong.
You can't win for losing. I just know its what I didn't buy! |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 12937496)
Oh, I'm not a woman.
I just know its what I didn't buy! |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 12937154)
And your not impressed by the security protections someone in your agency used to protect this document?
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 12937203)
So why are WBI signage not properly placed?
TSA employees not properly doing their jobs? This would be fun: dress up in a suit and tie, print that checklist and put it on a clipboard, and walk around the checkpoint looking at things and ticking boxes. See if the BDOs think you're suspicious. ;)
Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12936946)
Come on she said we need a vacuum 3 weeks before Christmas, what was I supposed to think? I think I was set up.
*When I was a kid, if Sears didn't sell it, you didn't need it. :D |
Originally Posted by Olton Hall
(Post 12937274)
I'm sure it's all being done for the children. It seems a few people at TSA may be learning a valuable lesson on the differences between the newer version of Adobe Reader and the older releaes they may likely be still using.
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Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 12937412)
I do. Unfortunately, that information is SSI, so I can't talk about it. ;)
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
(Post 12937647)
Beat me to it! :D
This would be fun: dress up in a suit and tie, print that checklist and put it on a clipboard, and walk around the checkpoint looking at things and ticking boxes. See if the BDOs think you're suspicious. ;) Aww, TK, you were s'posed to think "As long as I have to go to Sears* for a new vacuum, I should go to that nice jewelry shop in the mall and get a Christmas present for my wife." ;) *When I was a kid, if Sears didn't sell it, you didn't need it. :D |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 12937644)
Nah, in an organization of close to 50,000 with a relatvely high turn over rate, why did it take this long for something like this to come out? Why is SOP still mostly secre to the general population (meaning you)? I'm actually pleasantly surprised.
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Originally Posted by bonoman
(Post 12937019)
Hmmm, anyone ever seen an agent with a "Operational Test Piece" walking back and forth through the WTMD to test it 20 times every 24 hours?
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Blogdad Bob might have his hands full tomorrow morning. Wonder how his Monday morning will turn out? Wonder how they will spin this?
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
(Post 12937657)
Yeah, but it's not like it was leaked by one of the 50,000 + turnover; it's on an Official Government Website. :eek:
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Originally Posted by LessO2
(Post 12937036)
Fair guess, plausible, I just don't know. I think your scenario, my guess, and TK's guess are equally as plausible.
But it is still a guess because I wasn't there. I just think I have a better idea abot what might have been happening than others. |
Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12936908)
The girl is 12 and I have no clue what girls like.
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 12937656)
Me thinks TK is too cheap for diamonds!!!
For a 12-y-o girl, anything pink. Unless she's already at the "everything black" phase, in which case, I don't know either. |
Originally Posted by RadioGirl
(Post 12937647)
*When I was a kid, if Sears didn't sell it, you didn't need it. :D |
Originally Posted by bonoman
(Post 12937019)
Hmmm, anyone ever seen an agent with a "Operational Test Piece" walking back and forth through the WTMD to test it 20 times every 24 hours?
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 12937656)
Me thinks TK is too cheap for diamonds!!!
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Originally Posted by RadioGirl
(Post 12937713)
For the wife, it doesn't have to be diamonds - something less expensive but pretty is fine. Action movies DVDs, not so much. ;)
For a 12-y-o girl, anything pink. Unless she's already at the "everything black" phase, in which case, I don't know either. As for the wife I just got to the point where the kids buy her stuff with my money. I do get her chocolate every now and again but that is just to save me from the crankies. |
Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12936923)
To TSOs and other Covered persons, it is your duty to report this breach of SSI. Go ahead and ruin a few people's weekend.
Too bad everyone has gone home for the night. :td: |
Originally Posted by OnTheAsile
(Post 12936638)
As I have posted previously,the compete Screening Management SOP is now public information:
S206 Aviation and Transportation Security Screening Services Solicitation Number: HSTS05-09-R-SPP061 Amendment 3 Posted Date: March 16, 2009 "SOP NO SSI.pdf" has the SSI warnings deleted https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportun...&cck=1&au=&ck= I have also copied the S206 Cover page to keep with the SOP The Screening Contract is also posted in full. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 12938258)
The TSA and its apologists have tried to eliminate the transparency necessary for a liberal representative democracy to function in the manner designed by the Founding Fathers of these United States of America. Doesn't it seem like it is too late for them to do that given it's already at http://cryptome.org/ at the following URL http://cryptome.org/tsa-screening.zip ?
41) Ensure TSOs provide only their TSA nametag information when an individual requests a TSO’s personal information during, or as a result of, the screening process. 42) Conduct the procedures for checking travel documents and notifying the LEO and the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), when applicable, when U.S. currency or other monetary instruments appearing to exceed $10,000 is found on an individual or their property during screening. 2.7. PHOTOGRAPHING, VIDEOTAPING, AND FILMING SCREENING LOCATIONS A. TSA does not prohibit the public, passengers, or press from photographing, videotaping, or filming screening locations unless the activity interferes with a TSO’s ability to perform his or her duties or prevents the orderly flow of individuals through the screening location. Requests by commercial entities to photograph an airport screening location must be forwarded to TSA’s Office of Strategic Communications and Public Affairs. Photographing EDS or ETD monitor screens or emitted images is not permitted. B. TSA must not confiscate or destroy the photographic equipment or film of any person photographing the screening location. C. Whenever possible, x-ray machine images must not be visible to the public or press. When physical constraints prevent x-ray images from being fully protected from public viewing, TSOs must ensure no member of the public or press is in a position to observe an x-ray monitor for an extended period of time. Passengers and other unauthorized individuals must not be allowed to view EDS or ETD monitors and screens. |
Originally Posted by LoganTSO
(Post 12938239)
Already on it.
Too bad everyone has gone home for the night. :td: |
Originally Posted by AngryMiller
(Post 12938394)
The direct link has been pulled. They are in damage control mode right now and probably are none too happy.
So will the TSA use this moment of American-friendly transparency as an item to further its agenda to unionize, or will the TSA have to settle for just unloading whatever arsenal it can at some scapegoat(s)? |
Originally Posted by LoganTSO
(Post 12938239)
Already on it.
Too bad everyone has gone home for the night. :td: |
Originally Posted by AngryMiller
(Post 12938394)
The direct link has been pulled. They are in damage control mode right now and probably are none too happy.
It's already been published by the Federal Government. It's public domain. And it's already made its way to more than a few other websites. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 12938258)
The TSA and its apologists have tried to eliminate the transparency necessary for a liberal representative democracy to function in the manner designed by the Founding Fathers of these United States of America. Doesn't it seem like it is too late for them to do that given it's already at http://cryptome.org/ at the following URL http://cryptome.org/tsa-screening.zip ?
Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12936106)
You da man!! I bow before your awesome research abilities.
Direct link PDF warning. I have already saved a copy in case they decide to pull the PDF. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 12938485)
Without a doubt.
So will the TSA use this moment of transparency as an item to further its effort to unionize, or will the TSA have to settle for just unloading whatever arsenal it can at some scapegoat(s)? |
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