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EdofFX Oct 5, 2021 4:58 pm

My Walmart purchase two days ago also got only 1x. It was coded as grocery. It is only a few dollars worth.

I don't know the true answer, but I suspect not all the registers at Walmart are coded the same. I noticed that a couple of months ago when I got my new CSP and it offered $50 grocery credit. One of my Walmart purchase was coded as grocery and I received the grocery credit. Another purchase I made later on the same day at the same Walmart was coded something else (I forgot what the category was) and I did not receive the grocery credit.

FWIW, this happened at one of the Walmart "Supercenters", and I used different self check out registers.

mia Oct 5, 2021 5:35 pm


Originally Posted by Drwaz99 (Post 33621152)
I shopped at Walmart on Sat 10/3 and my statement closed last night ...
Edit: Sunday 10/3

It is not unusual for transactions posted late in the billing cycle to not receive bonus points until the next statement. It appears Chase closes bonus tracking a few days before statements are generated.

Chris58 Oct 5, 2021 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by mfFrom35K (Post 33620360)
By my count I have made one payment with two separate TaxIDs for the 3rd quarter meaning I should still be able to do one more each now (which is how it worked last year) and two more each in mid December for the 4th quarter.
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This is an interesting idea I never thought of.

I just went to PayUSA tax and started to try this, but stopped after reading the statement in red saying, "If this is a joint account, please use the primary taxpayer's SSAN".

Two questions, do you file married filing jointly or married filing separately?

Do you have two separate IRS online accounts for both yourself and your wife?

avanellen Oct 5, 2021 7:20 pm

Same thing happened on me. Made a purchased in person at Walmart supercenter and only got 1x.
I hope Chase can figure this out.

Drwaz99 Oct 6, 2021 3:04 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 33622086)
It is not unusual for transactions posted late in the billing cycle to not receive bonus points until the next statement. It appears Chase closes bonus tracking a few days before statements are generated.

Any idea if it show in my UR earnings section of the UR portal? I've never personally seen this happen in my almost decade with Chase.

mfFrom35K Oct 6, 2021 4:49 am


Originally Posted by Chris58 (Post 33622127)
This is an interesting idea I never thought of.

I just went to PayUSA tax and started to try this, but stopped after reading the statement in red saying, "If this is a joint account, please use the primary taxpayer's SSAN".

Two questions, do you file married filing jointly or married filing separately?

Do you have two separate IRS online accounts for both yourself and your wife?

We file married filing jointly. We do have two separate IRS online accounts to check the posting of payments. I have been doing this for multiple years; first with pay1040.com and the last two years with PayUSAtax (to get the Chase Bonus and also because it is now cheaper than Pay1040). Pay1040 actually asks for both tax IDs but PayUSAtax does not.

I just ignore the warning as the IRS has been able to properly apply the payments.

I am a bit surprised that my attempts have failed after two with different tax IDs this time as I don't see how PayUSAtax even has any data connecting our two tax IDs. I doubt they have some kind of API with the IRS to screen this out but who knows. In any case I will now be waiting until Dec 15 to try again but will also assume that only two more attempts will work.. Might have to do some shopping at Walmart.

Drwaz99 Oct 6, 2021 5:37 am


Originally Posted by Drwaz99 (Post 33621152)
Yes. I shopped at Walmart on Sat 10/3 and my statement closed last night (with the Walmart charge the only charge on my statement). Only got 1x points. I've sent Chase a SM to see if they can credit me, but it does look like something is awry.

Edit: Sunday 10/3

Update: I guess if you happen to have a WM SC that codes as groceries (even though it's Walmart), it's going to be a battle to get points. I got mine but don't want to go through this each and every time.
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Daftryan Oct 6, 2021 6:55 am


Originally Posted by Drwaz99 (Post 33623045)
Update: I guess if you happen to have a WM SC that codes as groceries (even though it's Walmart), it's going to be a battle to get points. I got mine but don't want to go through this each and every time.

Same exact thing for me. They finally deposited the points into my account via sending a secure message, having them send me an unsatisfactory reply, and me replying to that. In the end, I did get my 4040 points I was owed.

I hope they figure this out and fix it. I've never, EVER had this issue over 5+ years with Chase and have definitely shopped at this exact Walmart with no problems in the past. This is annoying as I still have my Freedom and my wife's Flex to max out. ;)

DeltaNeutral28 Oct 6, 2021 7:11 am

How do you tell in advance if it's an SC? Just the fact that they have a grocery section ?

mia Oct 6, 2021 7:41 am


Originally Posted by DeltaNeutral28 (Post 33623236)
How do you tell in advance if it's an SC?

I would look here: https://www.walmart.com/store/directory

Daftryan Oct 6, 2021 10:24 am


Originally Posted by mia (Post 33623303)

Disagree. I actually made the same exact purchase three times in the same exact store. One coded for 5x and two coded for 1x. The difference was the registers used yet both were in the same bank of self-checkout registers. Thus, one would have no idea how the purchase is going to code until it's all said and done.

Chase really needs to work this out as the T&Cs specifically explain that Walmart purchases "include Walmart Discount Stores, Walmart SuperCenters, Walmart Neighborhood Markets, www.walmart.com, Walmart branded gas stations operated by Walmart, any other Walmart branded retail stores operated by Walmart and purchases made with Walmart Pay," yet this is clearly not the case as myself and others are currently experiencing.

lkar Oct 6, 2021 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by mfFrom35K (Post 33622990)
We file married filing jointly. We do have two separate IRS online accounts to check the posting of payments. I have been doing this for multiple years; first with pay1040.com and the last two years with PayUSAtax (to get the Chase Bonus and also because it is now cheaper than Pay1040). Pay1040 actually asks for both tax IDs but PayUSAtax does not.

I just ignore the warning as the IRS has been able to properly apply the payments.

I am a bit surprised that my attempts have failed after two with different tax IDs this time as I don't see how PayUSAtax even has any data connecting our two tax IDs. I doubt they have some kind of API with the IRS to screen this out but who knows. In any case I will now be waiting until Dec 15 to try again but will also assume that only two more attempts will work.. Might have to do some shopping at Walmart.

Last time they had a paypal 5x I made 4 payments with payusa tax with myself as the primary and my P2 as the primary on the other 2. We file jointly but it was a big hassle to get them to apply the payments posted to her account to my account and I don't think I'm going to do it again.

mfFrom35K Oct 6, 2021 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by lkar (Post 33624061)
Last time they had a paypal 5x I made 4 payments with payusa tax with myself as the primary and my P2 as the primary on the other 2. We file jointly but it was a big hassle to get them to apply the payments posted to her account to my account and I don't think I'm going to do it again.

Interesting. Definitely not a hassle for me in the past. Since I have already started again this year I will go forward in December. I will post back here in the spring if I run into problems this year.

EdofFX Oct 6, 2021 5:18 pm


Originally Posted by Daftryan (Post 33623677)
Disagree. I actually made the same exact purchase three times in the same exact store. One coded for 5x and two coded for 1x. The difference was the registers used yet both were in the same bank of self-checkout registers. Thus, one would have no idea how the purchase is going to code until it's all said and done.
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That was what I experienced. Same self check out area in the same store, just different registers. Perhaps next time I will note which register I used, then look at the receipts.

I wonder what would happen when grocery is a quarterly bonus category. Will I get 5x through the "grocery register" at Walmart?

hotturnip Oct 6, 2021 8:44 pm


Originally Posted by EdofFX (Post 33624662)
That was what I experienced. Same self check out area in the same store, just different registers. Perhaps next time I will note which register I used, then look at the receipts.

I wonder what would happen when grocery is a quarterly bonus category. Will I get 5x through the "grocery register" at Walmart?

You can bet in a case like that, Chase has some drone scrutinizing all Walmart charges to make sure nobody is getting "unearned" points.


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