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RedSun Jan 19, 2021 8:53 am


Originally Posted by sbft77 (Post 32979525)
I don't see it mentioned on that website. But the CPC website chaseprivateclient.chase.com says "There is no Monthly Service Fee for Chase Private Client Checking when you have one of the following each monthly statement period: an average beginning day balance of $150,000 or more in any combination of this account and linked qualifying deposits and investments or , you have a linked Chase Platinum Business Checking account. Otherwise a $35 Monthly Service Fee will apply."

And when I opened a CPC account a couple months ago, I got a "Chase Private Client Addendum" PDF (you can search the web for that to see it) that makes it more clear; it has "OR, a linked Chase Platinum Business Checking account" as a separate bullet point than the $150,000 requirement.

If that is the case, then $50,000 cash in business account is even harder to maintain than $150,000 in JPM investment accounts such as some taxable and IRA accounts. Even a 1% interest of that $50,000 is $500 loss. Not sure if the Chase CPC yearly benefits even worth that.

Magic Pickles Jan 19, 2021 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by RedSun (Post 32979538)
If that is the case, then $50,000 cash in business account is even harder to maintain than $150,000 in JPM investment accounts such as some taxable and IRA accounts. Even a 1% interest of that $50,000 is $500 loss. Not sure if the Chase CPC yearly benefits even worth that.

i specifically stated you can keep it in a linked business brokerage account instead of leaving in checking: Naysayers can write it off if they wish, but It’s a viable option at 1/3 the balance requirement with opportunity for investment returns.

RedSun Jan 19, 2021 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by Magic Pickles (Post 32980705)
i specifically stated you can keep it in a linked business brokerage account instead of leaving in checking: Naysayers can write it off if they wish, but It’s a viable option at 1/3 the balance requirement with opportunity for investment returns.

So far, the only good one I have been thinking is the Schwab Platinum $100 credit for $250k, $200 for $1MM. It has no international ATM fees. Morgan Stanley AmEx Plat card is also another good one. Those offer solid credit. Schwab offers all the investment products, even futures. Not sure what Morgan Stanley will do with its E*Trade.

Chase CPC $150k is not that hard. But I still do not see the benefits over the costs on its investment side.

LAX Jan 21, 2021 9:15 pm


Originally Posted by r.brown (Post 32977538)
I guess it depends on what your goal is - do you just want the signup bonus or do you just want to be CPC?

If you just want CPC, and do not care about the signup bonus, you just need $150k in either cash/checking , You Invest, IRA, CD. Less than $150k and you pay a $35 / month. You are supposed to (within 13 months) get to a $250k balance. They waive the $35 / month fee (under $150k) for 3 months to give you time to transfer money in.

If you want the $2000 signup bonus, you must move $250k of new money into Chase and it can only be held in checking/savings or a JPM Investment account (taxable - not IRA).

The JPM Investment account has 2 options.

1) You can ask them to set it up as a self directed account (they call it Full Service) and there is no management fee. It is similar to You Invest.
2) They manage your money for you (their goal) and fees range based on how much you deposit. I was told 1.45 % for $100k, 1.25% for $250k, and .95% for $1 million.

Thanks for clarifying CPC balance requirements somewhat. However, I am still confused about You Invest vs. JPM self-directed investment account (no fee at all?). What's the difference? I imagine the self-directed account is accessible online, right? While I don't mind parking some money in the CPC checking account for the sign up bonus, if I can get the funds fully invested via the self-directed account while waiting for the bonus, why not?

LAX

r.brown Jan 22, 2021 5:50 am

I would ask the banker what the differences are. They are obviously going to push to manage your money and charge you a fee. There are plenty of articles on Reddit and Doctor of Credit about the CPC bonus and using a Self Directed Full Service account without a fee and getting the bonus. I can't link to these but if you google "CPC bonus self directed" you will see all of the articles.

Apparently the interface is the same between the JPM Self Directed and You Invest. Again the banker will continue to push to have him manage the account but you do not need to do that. There is a fee to transfer out of Chase if you ever choose to leave of I believe $75 a security.

Another thing to keep in mind, if you transfer stock/ETF in, they will by default use "Average Cost Basis". You need to send a secure message prior to transferring in and ask them to configure you account to be actual cost basis and not average.

damon88 Jan 23, 2021 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by r.brown (Post 32986559)
I would ask the banker what the differences are. They are obviously going to push to manage your money and charge you a fee.

We opened ours last summer — we transferred one of our taxable accounts from Ameritrade. We had a pleasant meeting with our Chase rep. He explained what he would charge to manage our account, but did not pressure us at all when I told him we wanted to manage ourselves. Back then IIRC Chase was still charging a trading fee, but sometime last year they eliminated it.

RedSun Jan 23, 2021 1:11 pm

I just created the Chase CPC Wikipost. Some is public content.

The difference of CPC vs. Sapphire is really small. The major difference is that CPC has a dedicated banker vs. the Sapphire dedicated phone line. But I have a lot of contact with my banker at the branch. So he is my (personal) banker regardless of the CPC status.

CPC was a good way to get around Chase 5/24 or for higher bonus or the Reserve card. But those are gone.

LAX Jan 23, 2021 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by damon88 (Post 32989577)
We opened ours last summer — we transferred one of our taxable accounts from Ameritrade. We had a pleasant meeting with our Chase rep. He explained what he would charge to manage our account, but did not pressure us at all when I told him we wanted to manage ourselves. Back then IIRC Chase was still charging a trading fee, but sometime last year they eliminated it.

Do you have the JPM self-directed investment account? Is it truly fee-free? I wonder if I should close my You Invest account then if I decide to upgrade to CPC. I definitely would ask the banker for more details, but sometimes I find FTers are more knowledgeable about some products (especially travel-related) than some reps at the company.

LAX

Wyfind Jan 23, 2021 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by LAX (Post 32990215)
Do you have the JPM self-directed investment account? Is it truly fee-free? I wonder if I should close my You Invest account then if I decide to upgrade to CPC. I definitely would ask the banker for more details, but sometimes I find FTers are more knowledgeable about some products (especially travel-related) than some reps at the company.

LAX

I have a self-directed brokerage account, and there are no fees.

I am also not pressured by my banker or investments "advisor" to have my investments managed by Chase. The banker asked me how I manage my investments when I signed up (no-fee and self-directed through Merrill Edge) and passed the notes along to the advisor when he introduced me. Interestingly, the advisor told me not to use YouInvest when we first met.

RedSun Jan 24, 2021 8:48 am

I'm not aware of JPM self-directed brokerage account other than the YouInvest accounts. We had the JPM mutal fund accounts, but that was before the YouInvest accounts came out.

https://www.jpmorgan.com/wealth-mana...ies/you-invest

It seems YouInvest IS the JPM self-directed investment account.....

LAX Jan 24, 2021 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by Wyfind (Post 32990395)
I have a self-directed brokerage account, and there are no fees.

I am also not pressured by my banker or investments "advisor" to have my investments managed by Chase. The banker asked me how I manage my investments when I signed up (no-fee and self-directed through Merrill Edge) and passed the notes along to the advisor when he introduced me. Interestingly, the advisor told me not to use YouInvest when we first met.

Did the advisor explain why? I imagine with a JPM brokerage account, there is a chance that the advisor can "take over" with minimal hassle if desired by the client. With You Invest, I supposed it's not designed for advisor management and may require the funds to be transferred to a traditional brokerage account even if the client wants some hand-holding.

LAX

Wyfind Jan 24, 2021 9:38 pm


Originally Posted by RedSun (Post 32990937)
I'm not aware of JPM self-directed brokerage account other than the YouInvest accounts. We had the JPM mutal fund accounts, but that was before the YouInvest accounts came out.

https://www.jpmorgan.com/wealth-mana...ies/you-invest

It seems YouInvest IS the JPM self-directed investment account.....

My account type reads "Investments by J.P. Morgan" instead of YouInvest.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...d4acd80077.png



Originally Posted by LAX (Post 32991948)
Did the advisor explain why? I imagine with a JPM brokerage account, there is a chance that the advisor can "take over" with minimal hassle if desired by the client. With You Invest, I supposed it's not designed for advisor management and may require the funds to be transferred to a traditional brokerage account even if the client wants some hand-holding.

LAX

He only mentioned YouInvest is "basic," but I imagine the online interfaces between the two account types are the same. (I don't know; I've never used YouInvest.) But I think you're right; it probably gives him. the opportunity to manage the account in the future if I change my mind and want a managed approach.

LAX Jan 24, 2021 9:43 pm


Originally Posted by Wyfind (Post 32992431)
My account type reads "Investments by J.P. Morgan" instead of YouInvest.

He only mentioned YouInvest is "basic," but I imagine the online interfaces between the two account types are the same. (I don't know; I've never used YouInvest.) But I think you're right; it probably gives him. the opportunity to manage the account in the future if I change my mind and want a managed approach.

Thanks. Your experience is very helpful to my understanding of JPM self-directed investment account vs. You Invest. Now I am even more tempted to go for the CPC bonus.

LAX

damon88 Jan 24, 2021 10:28 pm


Originally Posted by RedSun (Post 32990937)
I'm not aware of JPM self-directed brokerage account other than the YouInvest accounts. We had the JPM mutal fund accounts, but that was before the YouInvest accounts came out.

https://www.jpmorgan.com/wealth-mana...ies/you-invest

It seems YouInvest IS the JPM self-directed investment account.....


We have both a You Invest account and another that is termed “Full Service” even though we manage ourselves and pay no fees for our advisor.

Now that the full service account trades for free I don’t really see any difference between them.

Below is from our Statements:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fb1c818d9.jpeg

RedSun Jan 24, 2021 10:53 pm

Now I think I know what is going on.

When you bring $$$ to Chase CPC, the banker can put your $$$ into any account type. If he thinks you have intention to have Chase manage the $$$, then it stays in "Full Service" account. If you stated clearly that you would never let Chase manage it, the banker can put the $$$ into JPM self-directed or YouInvest accounts. For the "Full Service" account, the banker can set the fee to be 0%. They do not make much difference, just names.


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