CSP: Purchasing Points?
#1
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 335
CSP: Purchasing Points?
Has anyone purchased points via the UR Mall? You can purchase in increments of 1000 points for 25.00, and up to 5000 points a month. That rate is 40 points per dollar which seems pretty dang good to me.
Additionally, just in terms of redemption, an off-peak roundtrip business class fare on KAL from JFK>ICN would cost over 5000.00 at best (but can be well over 6000 depending on dates). Likewise, a roundtrip business class award ticket would be 125,000 points. Assuming you literally had no redeemable miles or UR rewards points to transfer, and you had to buy all 125,000 points to redeem the award, it would cost 3000.00 (which is obviously less than 5000+). Considering an upgradeable fare is going to be around 2500.00 (+ 80,000 points or so to actually upgrade), this seems like a very good deal.
Am I missing something? Is there any reason not to purchase 5000 points a month?
Additionally, just in terms of redemption, an off-peak roundtrip business class fare on KAL from JFK>ICN would cost over 5000.00 at best (but can be well over 6000 depending on dates). Likewise, a roundtrip business class award ticket would be 125,000 points. Assuming you literally had no redeemable miles or UR rewards points to transfer, and you had to buy all 125,000 points to redeem the award, it would cost 3000.00 (which is obviously less than 5000+). Considering an upgradeable fare is going to be around 2500.00 (+ 80,000 points or so to actually upgrade), this seems like a very good deal.
Am I missing something? Is there any reason not to purchase 5000 points a month?
#2




Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: North America
Posts: 2,273
If you have specific plans which will give you much greater value than 2.5cpm, sure, go for it....for most it probably doesn't make sense unless its to top off for a transfer.
For me to justify a 'buying' cost of 2.5cpm; I would need a redemption opportunity worth at least 4cpm - 5cpm if that makes sense (might not for others, we all have our methods)
For me to justify a 'buying' cost of 2.5cpm; I would need a redemption opportunity worth at least 4cpm - 5cpm if that makes sense (might not for others, we all have our methods)
#4
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#5




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#6

Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LAX
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Question would be - will you really pay 5K for that flight. The cpm is based on what you really are ready to pay. I took a IAD-DOH-IAH on Qatar recently with UA. The market price was around 5.5K - I am sure I would never pay that much amt for a revenue ticket.
Has anyone purchased points via the UR Mall? You can purchase in increments of 1000 points for 25.00, and up to 5000 points a month. That rate is 40 points per dollar which seems pretty dang good to me.
Additionally, just in terms of redemption, an off-peak roundtrip business class fare on KAL from JFK>ICN would cost over 5000.00 at best (but can be well over 6000 depending on dates). Likewise, a roundtrip business class award ticket would be 125,000 points. Assuming you literally had no redeemable miles or UR rewards points to transfer, and you had to buy all 125,000 points to redeem the award, it would cost 3000.00 (which is obviously less than 5000+). Considering an upgradeable fare is going to be around 2500.00 (+ 80,000 points or so to actually upgrade), this seems like a very good deal.
Am I missing something? Is there any reason not to purchase 5000 points a month?
Additionally, just in terms of redemption, an off-peak roundtrip business class fare on KAL from JFK>ICN would cost over 5000.00 at best (but can be well over 6000 depending on dates). Likewise, a roundtrip business class award ticket would be 125,000 points. Assuming you literally had no redeemable miles or UR rewards points to transfer, and you had to buy all 125,000 points to redeem the award, it would cost 3000.00 (which is obviously less than 5000+). Considering an upgradeable fare is going to be around 2500.00 (+ 80,000 points or so to actually upgrade), this seems like a very good deal.
Am I missing something? Is there any reason not to purchase 5000 points a month?
#7


Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LAS
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Here, you are not getting anything in return besides the points.
#8
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 335
Careful, now. When we say something earns us "x points per dollar," we are getting something in return IN ADDITION to the points. So I buy something from Sears with "20 points per dollar," I'm getting an item in return, plus the points. I can then sell the item back and get my money back, but keep the points.
Here, you are not getting anything in return besides the points.
Here, you are not getting anything in return besides the points.
#9
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 970
But why wouldn't you want to churn? Bad credit? Too lazy?
#10
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 335
What is a debit card that gives points?? I'm happy with the cards that we have (CSP and Delta Plat are our primary cards at the moment...there are a few others that don't get used, but I'm not sure if I will cancel them). I will probably add Chase Freedom at some point to maximize UR points.
#11
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Ultimate Rewards points purchase program is stingy compared to American Express Membership Rewards:
Chase forces you to accumulate points gradually, gambling that the redemption will be good value when you need them. American Express allows you to buy enough for a trip after you have confirmed award seat availability, and American Express has many more transfer partners.
1. You may purchase points in 1,000-point increments for $25 per 1,000 points, which will be billed on your Card account. 2. You may only purchase a maximum of 500,000 points per calendar year. 3. You may purchase points only for your own program account. Points may not be purchased except in connection with a conversion of points to a participating Frequent Customer program or redemption of points for a reward. 4. Corporate CMs, other than Business CMs, with only the Corporate Card enrolled in the program, may not purchase points. 5. Points purchased are subject to all other program Terms & Conditions applicable to points generally, including those concerning point forfeiture.
#12


Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LAS
Programs: DL PM, UA PS, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,906
Ultimate Rewards points purchase program is stingy compared to American Express Membership Rewards:
Chase forces you to accumulate points gradually, gambling that the redemption will be good value when you need them. American Express allows you to buy enough for a trip after you have confirmed award seat availability, and American Express has many more transfer partners.
Chase forces you to accumulate points gradually, gambling that the redemption will be good value when you need them. American Express allows you to buy enough for a trip after you have confirmed award seat availability, and American Express has many more transfer partners.
#14




Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Austin, TX
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Posts: 523
I logged in to the UR Mall via my CSP account and do not see the option to purchase points. Having purchased a few thousand points in the past, that's a disappointment to have it taken away. It was nice to have the option to top off an account to hit a airline ticket redemption.
#15


Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Arlington, MA USA
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The FAQ still says it's possible, but as both of you have seen, the link is no longer there. I wonder if it's just a web programming glitch.

