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Old May 5, 2020, 2:33 pm
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how they use passenger planes for cargo

https://twitter.com/cathaypacific?re...rgo-flights%2F

video is part of this article on Business Traveller https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...cargo-flights/
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Old May 5, 2020, 3:17 pm
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I expected to see that the seats had been removed.... BUT... given there are no large access doors/pathways INTO the cabin perhaps it makes no difference....Looks horribly manpower intensive though.....
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Old May 5, 2020, 5:14 pm
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Old May 5, 2020, 6:42 pm
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Originally Posted by trooper
I expected to see that the seats had been removed....BUT... given there are no large access doors/pathways INTO the cabin perhaps it makes no difference....
Actually, the problem is not about access.

1. Where would an airline place the removed seats?

2. Where could you anchor the cargo without damaging the aircraft?

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Looks horribly manpower intensive though.....
At least CX will have no excuse to lay off more personnel.

(Note - HAS is a CX subsidy.)
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Old May 5, 2020, 8:38 pm
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HAECO (subsidiary of Swire Group) launched series of cargo modules in cabin recently:
https://www.haeco.com/en/Press-Room/...Passengers-and

Maybe we can expect to see them on Cathay's birds in the future.

By the way, there are at least two CX B77Ws, 1 B773 and 1 B333 in Xiamen XMN. Let's see what will happen
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Originally Posted by trooper
Looks horribly manpower intensive though.....
At least the cabin crew has something to do!
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Old May 6, 2020, 12:23 am
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At least the cabin crew has something to do!
Agree! Plus they don't need to be worried about being in contact with any potentially infected passengers!
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Good point!
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Old May 6, 2020, 9:13 am
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Originally Posted by garykung
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2. Where could you anchor the cargo without damaging the aircraft?
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Originally Posted by Reply1984
HAECO (subsidiary of Swire Group) launched series of cargo modules in cabin recently:
https://www.haeco.com/en/Press-Room/...Passengers-and

Maybe we can expect to see them on Cathay's birds in the future.

By the way, there are at least two CX B77Ws, 1 B773 and 1 B333 in Xiamen XMN. Let's see what will happen
Looks like all these are anchored to the seat mounting channels which will take these max loads without any problem.
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Old May 6, 2020, 9:16 am
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And storing seats for a few aircraft is a trivial problem.
As these aircraft won't be needed for a year or two ....
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Old May 6, 2020, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by tentseller
Looks like all these are anchored to the seat mounting channels which will take these max loads without any problem.
But the packaging itself can't.

In other word - in responding previous post, without installing anything but just removing seats, you can't really put boxes into the cabin.
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Old May 6, 2020, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by garykung
But the packaging itself can't.

In other word - in responding previous post, without installing anything but just removing seats, you can't really put boxes into the cabin.
Looks like there would be containers that would fit on a triple seat setup with straps to anchor them into the seat mounting rail according to the two lower illustrations.

The pallet on the upper left would be secured to the seat mounting rail once the seats are removed and the "boxes" on it will be secured with cargo nets.
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Old May 6, 2020, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by garykung
But the packaging itself can't.

In other word - in responding previous post, without installing anything but just removing seats, you can't really put boxes into the cabin.
that's why Airbus is offering modification to be able to carry cargo on the passenger planes deck.
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