Knee defender (CX/KA-specific)
Aug 27, 2014, 5:44 am
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Knee defender (CX/KA-specific)
I already read the QF thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/qanta...-defender.html and note the mod action. I only want to discuss CX/KA-specific issues here.
1. Has anyone seen these used on CX/KA flights?
2. Has CX/KA made any statements on this akin to QF/VA?
3. Do you think CX/KA FAs will be willing to confront pax using these devices (cf Australian, US FAs)?
4. Anyone found where to buy these on Taobao?
1. Has anyone seen these used on CX/KA flights?
2. Has CX/KA made any statements on this akin to QF/VA?
3. Do you think CX/KA FAs will be willing to confront pax using these devices (cf Australian, US FAs)?
4. Anyone found where to buy these on Taobao?
Aug 27, 2014, 12:59 pm
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Never seen it in practice and I rarely see people recline their seats on regional flights. I certainly don't recline mine. I imagine the statement would be this is not allowed, but I have no heard anything official on this.
I think it's a .........gery thing to use.
I think it's a .........gery thing to use.
Aug 27, 2014, 1:08 pm
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There is a special level of hell reserved for people who use this object.
I sympathize with the person that cannot open their laptop on a tray table--but if the laptop is that mission critical, there are plenty of options. Use a tablet, pay for a bulkhead seat, pay for an upgrade to Y+ or J.
If the use of the laptop doesn't justify spending, then forego it for the flight.
I sympathize with the person that cannot open their laptop on a tray table--but if the laptop is that mission critical, there are plenty of options. Use a tablet, pay for a bulkhead seat, pay for an upgrade to Y+ or J.
If the use of the laptop doesn't justify spending, then forego it for the flight.
Aug 27, 2014, 5:48 pm
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Not on regional seats (CX's hard shell regional seats are cited as examples of places where knee defender is not necessary). But long-haul cradle?
Doesn't look like Taobao have them yet. Thank goodness. But I'll be very concerned when they have it!
Doesn't look like Taobao have them yet. Thank goodness. But I'll be very concerned when they have it!
Aug 27, 2014, 8:03 pm
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Article in today's SCMP:
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/artic...ng-spurs-sales
"The four largest US carriers - American Airlines, United, Delta and Southwest - all bar the use of the Knee Defender. Cathay Pacific said it doesn't have a policy on the issue and is still evaluating the situation."
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/artic...ng-spurs-sales
"The four largest US carriers - American Airlines, United, Delta and Southwest - all bar the use of the Knee Defender. Cathay Pacific said it doesn't have a policy on the issue and is still evaluating the situation."
Aug 27, 2014, 8:24 pm
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Article in today's SCMP:
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/artic...ng-spurs-sales
"The four largest US carriers - American Airlines, United, Delta and Southwest - all bar the use of the Knee Defender. Cathay Pacific said it doesn't have a policy on the issue and is still evaluating the situation."
http://www.scmp.com/news/world/artic...ng-spurs-sales
"The four largest US carriers - American Airlines, United, Delta and Southwest - all bar the use of the Knee Defender. Cathay Pacific said it doesn't have a policy on the issue and is still evaluating the situation."
Aug 27, 2014, 10:10 pm
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This what I saw a few months ago on a KA flight:
German guy watching show on his ipad (resting on the seat tablet).
Huge dutch guy (on exit road), suddenly fully reclines with all the force of his body.
The tablet was badly hit but luckily the german had quick enough reflex to pull it out before the damage was total.
He complained to the beast in front by poking his elbow, to which he got quite loud threats back. No apologies no nothing.
Knee defender? considering the beast one can find on board from time to time....a simitar could be more appropriate :-)
Nowadays I'm very careful with my computer screen, plus who wants a knee defender when you can use your own foot or knee to the same effect :-)
German guy watching show on his ipad (resting on the seat tablet).
Huge dutch guy (on exit road), suddenly fully reclines with all the force of his body.
The tablet was badly hit but luckily the german had quick enough reflex to pull it out before the damage was total.
He complained to the beast in front by poking his elbow, to which he got quite loud threats back. No apologies no nothing.
Knee defender? considering the beast one can find on board from time to time....a simitar could be more appropriate :-)
Nowadays I'm very careful with my computer screen, plus who wants a knee defender when you can use your own foot or knee to the same effect :-)
Last edited by longliveKA; Aug 30, 2014 at 2:05 am
Aug 27, 2014, 10:33 pm
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I kind of like the "everybody loses" aspect of the hard shell cradle. Instead of making the recline game a zero-sum game, everybody loses. Very democratic.
Aug 28, 2014, 7:37 pm
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This what I saw a few months ago on a KA flight:
German guy watching show on his ipad (resting on the seat tablet).
Huge dutch guy (on exit road), suddenly fully reclines with all the force of his body.
The tablet was badly hit but luckily the german had quick enough reflex to pull it out before the damage was total.
German guy watching show on his ipad (resting on the seat tablet).
Huge dutch guy (on exit road), suddenly fully reclines with all the force of his body.
The tablet was badly hit but luckily the german had quick enough reflex to pull it out before the damage was total.
Just one thing, what is "pocking his armbow?"
Aug 29, 2014, 6:25 am
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Aug 29, 2014, 2:23 pm
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Aug 30, 2014, 7:34 am
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But in reality the difference in feeling is far from just losing a few inches knee space...