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Originally Posted by pacificboot
(Post 11519260)
I never thought that CX888/889 (the YVR-JFK) sector makes sense, when they already have two non-stop flights. It is not like those non-stop flights are so full that they are spilling customers into CX888/889.
I believe CX will time CX841 to a 1am departure (evening departures do not work, as it arrives HK at night, and kills all connection availability, pretty much like CX885 when it was available). It also makes more sense for nonstop overnight flight than daytime flight, in terms of popularity. Question: Is there a closing time for T7 in JFK? Would CX need to change terminal with the new schedule? |
Whatever happens I just hope they schedule a red eye both ways. The HKG-YYZ times have proven that a 2 am departure ex HKG works beautifully.
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Originally Posted by lastplace
(Post 11518061)
correct me if i am wrong, but for arguments sake lets say they changed the 2pm flight nonstop to a 8 pm nonstop...wouldnt that arrive into hk at 1am?....
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That would be perfect
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A top-level CX executive told a meeting of investment bankers last week that CX is working on a 'radical' solution to the drop-off in loads. This solution will focus on long-haul routes and eliminate c. 30% of capacity. It will include accelarated retirement of a substanital proportion of the fleet.
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Originally Posted by OzChuckles
(Post 11525633)
It will include accelarated retirement of a substanital proportion of the fleet.
- Eliminate B772 (but who would want them?) - Not renew lease with 3 KA A330 and 1 A320, but then 1 A320 will enter KA this year, so that means less 3 A330 I don't see CX reducing their long-haul fleet at all. |
Originally Posted by OzChuckles
(Post 11525633)
A top-level CX executive told a meeting of investment bankers last week that CX is working on a 'radical' solution to the drop-off in loads.
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CX is finally introducing Business Class promotions ex-USA. However, I think the price is still expensive. A roundtrip Business Class fare under promotion from JFK to HKG still costs US$7,368. As CX is having really low loads in F and J for flights between HKG and JFK, and I think they should consider reducing the J fares further. Their competitor Asiana is currently offering Business Class fares of around US$5,300 to HKG.
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There is YYZ where F/J fares are more than 50% cheaper than what you'd get ex-JFK for anyone looking for discounts from the East Coast.
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2010 Olympics factor
I doubt the company will change YVR-JFK route prior to the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. There's only 1 other non-stop flight (AC) for that route.
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Originally Posted by money_opp
(Post 11547786)
I doubt the company will change YVR-JFK route prior to the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. There's only 1 other non-stop flight (AC) for that route.
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Originally Posted by money_opp
(Post 11547786)
I doubt the company will change YVR-JFK route prior to the 2010 Winter Olympics in Vancouver. There's only 1 other non-stop flight (AC) for that route.
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In my experience, on JFK-YVR, loads westbound aren't particularly light - eastbound loads often are, but I've been opped-up multiple times on that flight and also witnessed oversales before receiving CX status. The timing is excellent if you're interested in traveling westbound after work. It's a late arrival, and for some, it's non optimal, but not just for myself, for many other flyers on that route, the late departure from JFK is one of the heavy advantages of that flight.
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I'll be on CX888 HKG-YVR-JFK in July if it is still flying then.
A thread search revealed that, as of last fall, CX would hold passengers at the gate area at YVR during the stop. Has this changed? I assume this means that lounge-eligible pax are not even allowed lounge access? Also, is there any type of arrival lounge the CX uses for premium pax at JFK? |
Originally Posted by bobovespa
(Post 11570662)
Also, is there any type of arrival lounge the CX uses for premium pax at JFK?
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