747- upper or lower deck biz class?
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747- upper or lower deck biz class?
so- i have an option to take either the regular 777 flight from jfk-hkg or the 747 which does a layover in vancouver. i don't have any issues with doing the layover...my interest is in the upper deck of the 747. as a kid i recall always wanting to go up--- obviously that never happened. now i have a chance to jump on it- but is the upper deck anything special?
if it's crap, then i may as well skip and just jump on the direct flights....
curious for your input=)
if it's crap, then i may as well skip and just jump on the direct flights....
curious for your input=)
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With the old business class the upper deck was much nicer than the main deck - quieter, storage bins and space beside you (in the window seat - remember seats where you could look out of the window?), lots of legroom in 86A (the best business seat on the plane).
With the new business class you're all just in identical little cubicles, because all you want to do is sleep, right? (That's what CX would have us all believe)
Note that the 747 doesn't currently have laptop power if that's important to you. The 777 does. Otherwise, a cubicle is a cubicle. The cabin crew will do their best to lob things over the TV to you.
With the new business class you're all just in identical little cubicles, because all you want to do is sleep, right? (That's what CX would have us all believe)
Note that the 747 doesn't currently have laptop power if that's important to you. The 777 does. Otherwise, a cubicle is a cubicle. The cabin crew will do their best to lob things over the TV to you.
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So it's big enough for half of one buttock rather than the quarter of a buttock downstairs?
It's not an Ottoman - an Ottoman is specifically for sitting on. The footrests in CX new J have signs on them specifically telling you NOT to sit there.
It's not an Ottoman - an Ottoman is specifically for sitting on. The footrests in CX new J have signs on them specifically telling you NOT to sit there.
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With the old business class the upper deck was much nicer than the main deck - quieter, storage bins and space beside you (in the window seat - remember seats where you could look out of the window?), lots of legroom in 86A (the best business seat on the plane).
With the new business class you're all just in identical little cubicles, because all you want to do is sleep, right? (That's what CX would have us all believe)
Note that the 747 doesn't currently have laptop power if that's important to you. The 777 does. Otherwise, a cubicle is a cubicle. The cabin crew will do their best to lob things over the TV to you.
With the new business class you're all just in identical little cubicles, because all you want to do is sleep, right? (That's what CX would have us all believe)
Note that the 747 doesn't currently have laptop power if that's important to you. The 777 does. Otherwise, a cubicle is a cubicle. The cabin crew will do their best to lob things over the TV to you.
I have not tried the upper deck in the new configuration. I should be able to try out in August, unless CX switches equipment again.
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so- i have an option to take either the regular 777 flight from jfk-hkg or the 747 which does a layover in vancouver. i don't have any issues with doing the layover...my interest is in the upper deck of the 747. as a kid i recall always wanting to go up--- obviously that never happened. now i have a chance to jump on it- but is the upper deck anything special?
if it's crap, then i may as well skip and just jump on the direct flights....
curious for your input=)
if it's crap, then i may as well skip and just jump on the direct flights....
curious for your input=)
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That is a good point - if you have carry-ons that are close to the size limit then they won't be stowable upstairs: the crew will stow them downstairs for you.
From http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...ageinformation
From http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...ageinformation
For added safety and convenience to you and our cabin crew, all travellers seated on the upper deck of our B747s are required to make use of the overhead lockers and side-wall compartments to store your luggage. We apologise the upper cloakroom is no longer available for use due to new, improved safety measures.
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It is an ottoman according to cX:
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en...wbusinessclass
The ISM said you can sit there when the seat belt sign is off, however must be in J Class.
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That is a good point - if you have carry-ons that are close to the size limit then they won't be stowable upstairs: the crew will stow them downstairs for you.
From http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...ageinformation
From http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_...ageinformation
I personally find the lower deck is a no go zone in J Class - especially in the new J Class. It just feels more cramp and more noisy (closer to the engine)
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Upper Deck 74A IS larger
Flew the 74A last week HKG-NRT-HKG. For landing (wanted to make a dash for customs) moved to downstairs from my 88A cubicle and noticed the difference BIG TIME! The upstairs layout is much better as the area that used to be the side bin storage is now additional space around your head and shoulders when in deep recline and or sleep mode. Makes a BIG difference to be able to stretch your arms out. Thus you have a longer cubicle as pointed out and foot rest is ever so slightly larger.
For overnight flights however, if you are sensitive to light there are overhead spot lights that will not be turned off that illuminate the footrests at 88A and 88K (they are aimed for the aisle but the focus is not tight). Eye shades will do the trick for sleeping but if you are watching a movie and this bothers you then select another seat.
Again, the overall product is flimsy and cheaply made. Both coming and going my cubicle had a broken armrest and the monitor did not retract snuggly into the wall. Fabric on the footrest is already worn.
In another year, these cabins will look decidedly shabby.
On a brighter note had very good crews both coming and going -- secret of course is that the IFS was Filipina both ways. It always sets the tone for the inflight service from the HK staff.
For overnight flights however, if you are sensitive to light there are overhead spot lights that will not be turned off that illuminate the footrests at 88A and 88K (they are aimed for the aisle but the focus is not tight). Eye shades will do the trick for sleeping but if you are watching a movie and this bothers you then select another seat.
Again, the overall product is flimsy and cheaply made. Both coming and going my cubicle had a broken armrest and the monitor did not retract snuggly into the wall. Fabric on the footrest is already worn.
In another year, these cabins will look decidedly shabby.
On a brighter note had very good crews both coming and going -- secret of course is that the IFS was Filipina both ways. It always sets the tone for the inflight service from the HK staff.

