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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:56 am
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cx op up question

does anyone know exactly when cx does its operational upgrades?

i have been very lucky with op ups from cx (i'm running at about 30%, biz to first). my situation is a bit odd as i am current exp with aa but am about to switch to qf's program and will be a qf and oneworld "nothing" for a few months until i accrue qf platinum.

i have a biz class syd-hkg at the end of the month enroute to mru to pick up a rtw ticket there and don't want to destroy my chances for an op upgrade by using my qf ff # but want to count the miles to my lowly qf account.

my idea (perhaps naive as i have never done this before) is that i would check in with my aa ff # (exp) and then change it to my (lowly) qf number at the gate right before i board.

do you think this would this work? if so, how should i time the ff # switch-a-roo?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 12:37 pm
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The op-up priority has been changed with effect from 1 August 2007, and looks something like this:
  1. CX Diamond Plus
  2. CX Diamond, CX Invitation
  3. CX Gold
  4. CX staff
  5. CX staff nominees, Non-CX staff
  6. Oneworld Emerald
  7. Oneworld Sapphire
  8. CX Silver
  9. Oneworld Ruby
  10. CX Green
  11. Asia Miles
  12. Non status
As Oneworld Emerald, you're a fair bit down the list so don't put your hopes too high. Are you on 110 from SYD? This is the only flight that still has F class.

Yes I'm quite sure that your FFP no. can be changed anytime.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 5:37 pm
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Originally Posted by kchika
The op-up priority has been changed with effect from 1 August 2007, and looks something like this:
  1. CX Diamond Plus
  2. CX Diamond, CX Invitation
  3. CX Gold
  4. CX staff
  5. CX staff nominees, Non-CX staff
  6. Oneworld Emerald
  7. Oneworld Sapphire
  8. CX Silver
  9. Oneworld Ruby
  10. CX Green
  11. Asia Miles
  12. Non status
As Oneworld Emerald, you're a fair bit down the list so don't put your hopes too high. Are you on 110 from SYD? This is the only flight that still has F class.

Yes I'm quite sure that your FFP no. can be changed anytime.
My OP UP rate on CX used to be about 75%. Since this change it is 0%. My flight patterns have changed as a result. I'm flying AA through NRT way more often.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by millionmiler
My OP UP rate on CX used to be about 75%. Since this change it is 0%. My flight patterns have changed as a result. I'm flying AA through NRT way more often.
Are you talking long-haul J->F op-up? The chance for that should be pretty good as CX overbooked long-haul (and even some short-haul and regional) J quite often in the last few months. (For Y->J op-up, the chance is not good lately even for a CX DM.)

Also, this change only happened 2.5 months ago. It is hard to draw a conclusion except with 10 or more long-haul sectors.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 6:06 pm
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Actually I have always wondered why CX bothers to put DMP on the top of the op-up list. In order to become DMP, a flyer has to do a long-haul round trip every month on full F fares. There is no more op-up possible when already in F. Would the op-ups be for his/her traveling companions?
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by kchika
The op-up priority has been changed with effect from 1 August 2007, and looks something like this:
  1. CX Diamond Plus
  2. CX Diamond, CX Invitation
  3. CX Gold
  4. CX staff
  5. CX staff nominees, Non-CX staff
  6. Oneworld Emerald
  7. Oneworld Sapphire
  8. CX Silver
  9. Oneworld Ruby
  10. CX Green
  11. Asia Miles
  12. Non status
As Oneworld Emerald, you're a fair bit down the list so don't put your hopes too high. Are you on 110 from SYD? This is the only flight that still has F class.

Yes I'm quite sure that your FFP no. can be changed anytime.
wow. this is very useful info but i think that my chances of getting an op up are diddlee-squat now.
yes. i am on cx 110.

thanks for the great info.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:51 am
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Perhaps I was extremely lucky, but back in August I got a Y-> J op-up on HKG-LHR. I'm AA PLT and had purchased a Y fare ticket (does booking in a higher fare bucket help?). When I got to the gate the GA took my Y boarding pass away and fished through a separate stack of boarding passes, and gave me a new one. I was about to complain since I had called a while ahead to get an exit seat, but when I noticed the low row number I kept my mouth shut

I'm flying tomorrow LAX-HKG booked in J. Seatcounter is showing 3 F seats, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Even if I don't get it, I'll still have cause to celebrate. I'll finally make it to EXP when I return
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 1:16 am
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Originally Posted by brenc3
Perhaps I was extremely lucky, but back in August I got a Y-> J op-up on HKG-LHR. I'm AA PLT and had purchased a Y fare ticket (does booking in a higher fare bucket help?). When I got to the gate the GA took my Y boarding pass away and fished through a separate stack of boarding passes, and gave me a new one. I was about to complain since I had called a while ahead to get an exit seat, but when I noticed the low row number I kept my mouth shut

I'm flying tomorrow LAX-HKG booked in J. Seatcounter is showing 3 F seats, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Even if I don't get it, I'll still have cause to celebrate. I'll finally make it to EXP when I return
Don't complain when you are told "Mr. brenc3, we have a new seat for you". If you really want to say anything, just say "thank you" without even needing to look at the BP.

One time when I received a Y->J op-up, I did not even take a look until boarding. I got 86H^!! I wondered who was that "unlucky" fellow who got "bumped" from 86H by me.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by brenc3
Perhaps I was extremely lucky, but back in August I got a Y-> J op-up on HKG-LHR.
Which flight were you on?
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 7:59 am
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
One time when I received a Y->J op-up, I did not even take a look until boarding. I got 86H^!! I wondered who was that "unlucky" fellow who got "bumped" from 86H by me.
Row 86 are often occupied by Diamond members.
So, probably, one assigned in 86H was bumped to F class.

Last year, I had 86C seat assignment on flight HKG to LHR,
and was bumped to F.
I don't have a concrete idea about who occupied my 86C.
But,....
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
Row 86 are often occupied by Diamond members.
So, probably, one assigned in 86H was bumped to F class.

Last year, I had 86C seat assignment on flight HKG to LHR,
and was bumped to F.
I don't have a concrete idea about who occupied my 86C.
But,....
251 or 255?
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by kchika
Which flight were you on?
I was on CX 253, which I believe was pretty full (it was a Sunday, 8/26). I was traveling MEL-LHR via HKG.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by cxfan1960
Are you talking long-haul J->F op-up? The chance for that should be pretty good as CX overbooked long-haul (and even some short-haul and regional) J quite often in the last few months. (For Y->J op-up, the chance is not good lately even for a CX DM.)

Also, this change only happened 2.5 months ago. It is hard to draw a conclusion except with 10 or more long-haul sectors.
J to F. Used to get them a lot, now not at all. Switching to AA/JAL Asia connections. CXJ>AAJ but AAF>CXJ.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
Row 86 are often occupied by Diamond members.
So, probably, one assigned in 86H was bumped to F class.

Last year, I had 86C seat assignment on flight HKG to LHR,
and was bumped to F.
I don't have a concrete idea about who occupied my 86C.
But,....
I did not take your seat - probably my twin did.

However, if the passenger bumped by me liked to keep his 86H seat, I would not mind being bumped again to his newly assigned seat.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
Row 86 are often occupied by Diamond members.
That's not necessarily true. I'm CX Gold and Jul 1st I flew with my son (CX Silver) JFK-HKG on 889 and confirmed a mileage upgrade for the 2 of us 2 days before departure. I was able to confirm 86 H and K for both of us then. I do admit though, that I was surprised that the 2 seats were available.
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