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percysmith Oct 16, 2025 11:38 pm

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percysmith Oct 16, 2025 11:39 pm


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 37376946)
and if you want to target a specific subfare, then you might need to call ticketing instead of online . That isn’t that hard. Annoying, yes agree (although not that relevant for most people honestly). but this isn’t some conspiracy against consumers

Can CX GCC do it? Not TAs only? I might have misspoken on Reddit if yes.

CXFlyerBoy Oct 17, 2025 12:18 am


Originally Posted by Worldtravelerr (Post 37376938)
That’s true but I’m a consumer, a traveler and not a Cathay shareholder. I’ve been traveling with Cathay for 20 years and I think me and many travelers deserve more transparency. This is not displayed upright during checkout and definitely an inconvenience for most people.

MH has the same practice and better still, don't even let you see the subclass until ticket is issued, so CX is not alone. Life wasn't supposed to be made easy when one flies peasant's class. So most of us just have to suck it up, exhale in despair and move on.

percysmith Oct 17, 2025 12:23 am


Originally Posted by CXFlyerBoy (Post 37376975)
MH has the same practice and better still, don't even let you see the subclass until ticket is issued, so CX is not alone. Life wasn't supposed to be made easy when one flies peasant's class. So most of us just have to suck it up, exhale in despair and move on.

Their own status (Elite Points) earn table is fare code-agnostic https://enrich.malaysiaairlines.com/...ning_Table.pdf

Worldtravelerr Oct 17, 2025 12:31 am


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 37376946)
it is indeed displayed at checkout!

I agree it is annoying that you have to click all the way through to see it. Fully aligned here.

but the idea it’s not displayed just isnt right. The subfare class is visible if you click on the fare terms and conditions at checkout.

I think many posters here for the purposes of checking fares and booking tickets etc wish it was visible early in the process not at the very end. Thats all

and if you want to target a specific subfare, then you might need to call ticketing instead of online . That isn’t that hard. Annoying, yes agree (although not that relevant for most people honestly). but this isn’t some conspiracy against consumers

obviously you get my point. I said that it’s not displayed upright. Hidden until at the end of checkout.

QRC3288 Oct 17, 2025 12:44 am


Originally Posted by Worldtravelerr (Post 37376986)
obviously you get my point. I said that it’s not displayed upright. Hidden until at the end of checkout.

Not necessarily. I take "upright" to mean unethical.If that's the case, I politely disagree. What MH does above, is pushing that boundary (you don't find out until ticketed). CX shows it to you at the end. This is inconvenient but not awful, and it doesn't change the fact that if you really want to target a fareclass, you just call them or a travel agent and book that way.

Ironically I am also annoyed by it. And it's also true, the econ fares are clearly more complicated than J and F. But I don't think it's some unethical CX anti-consumer thing as you may be implying. It's my belief that those of us on FT are in the minority of bookers. Even my secretary whose job this technically is (in reality, I like booking a lot of my own tickets), she can't be bothered with sub fareclasses as I am out of sheer interest / hobby. She has better things to worry about. The majority of the traveling public I think are better served by the more simple names CX has in plain English, even though it's annoying for us.

It might just be a difference of opinion.

Worldtravelerr Oct 17, 2025 12:46 am


Originally Posted by CXFlyerBoy (Post 37376975)
MH has the same practice and better still, don't even let you see the subclass until ticket is issued, so CX is not alone. Life wasn't supposed to be made easy when one flies peasant's class. So most of us just have to suck it up, exhale in despair and move on.

Honestly this is a policy and transparency issue. Life is certainly easier if you can afford to fly first class. But not the majority of travelers can. That’s why we have only a handful of first class seats on the plane. I guarantee you that the majority of travelers have never flown first or business class before. The responsibility and the “suck it up, move on with life” attitude shouldn’t be placed on the underprivileged travelers flying on the peasant class.

It’s honestly a simple fix with displaying the class code during flight selection. I don’t think that will cost millions of dollars in business revenue.

CXFlyerBoy Oct 17, 2025 1:00 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 37376978)
Their own status (Elite Points) earn table is fare code-agnostic https://enrich.malaysiaairlines.com/...ning_Table.pdf

Obviously the business owner will do whatever that makes minimum business sense and easiest to implement for them
The same reason why they introduced more perks at the top. They are not after the vast majority which does not bring them the corresponding revenue

CXFlyerBoy Oct 17, 2025 1:01 am


Originally Posted by Worldtravelerr (Post 37377002)
Honestly this is a policy and transparency issue. Life is certainly easier if you can afford to fly first class. But not the majority of travelers can. That’s why we have only a handful of first class seats on the plane. I guarantee you that the majority of travelers have never flown first or business class before. The responsibility and the “suck it up, move on with life” attitude shouldn’t be placed on the underprivileged travelers flying on the peasant class.

It’s honestly a simple fix with displaying the class code during flight selection. I don’t think that will cost millions of dollars in business revenue.

Your request has been logged in my my tech road map for airport tycoon 2044

scai Oct 17, 2025 1:06 am

AFAIK, CX website booking only displays the cheapest available class. I think it makes sense because if they display all the options of Discount Economy, Economy, Full Economy (three classes), and each class coming with three fare types (lite, essential, flex), there would be 9 combinations for costumers to choose. It will probably complicate things for 95% of the costumers IMO.

Worldtravelerr Oct 17, 2025 1:08 am


Originally Posted by QRC3288 (Post 37376998)
Not necessarily. I take "upright" to mean unethical.If that's the case, I politely disagree. What MH does above, is pushing that boundary (you don't find out until ticketed). CX shows it to you at the end. This is inconvenient but not awful, and it doesn't change the fact that if you really want to target a fareclass, you just call them or a travel agent and book that way.

Ironically I am also annoyed by it. And it's also true, the econ fares are clearly more complicated than J and F. But I don't think it's some unethical CX anti-consumer thing as you may be implying. It's my belief that those of us on FT are in the minority of bookers. Even my secretary whose job this technically is (in reality, I like booking a lot of my own tickets), she can't be bothered with sub fareclasses as I am out of sheer interest / hobby. She has better things to worry about. The majority of the traveling public I think are better served by the more simple names CX has in plain English, even though it's annoying for us.

It might just be a difference of opinion.

Maybe it’s my choice of words that is leading to our difference of opinion.

I meant upright as in “stands straight up”.
Outright is actually the term that is more suitable in this context.

I get your point.

It’s just annoying like you said to have to figure out all these fare subclasses. I am more tech savvy than my parents and so I can assist them now that we know how the system works.

But for the other travelers, especially the elderly and individuals that are not informed, it’s not as easy for them to navigate through the FF process.

Maybe it’s a good suggestion that I can provide to Cathay. List the sub fare class during flight selection. List the number of Asia Miles and status points that can be earned prior to checkout.
These are predetermined values and it shouldn’t cost millions of dollars in revenue to display online.

With advancements in technology, life should be made easier for all classes of travelers. I’ll have to call CS now to secure a certain fare class. Very tedious when you are booking multiple tickets at one time.

Worldtravelerr Oct 17, 2025 1:19 am


Originally Posted by scai (Post 37377020)
AFAIK, CX website booking only displays the cheapest available class. I think it makes sense because if they display all the options of Discount Economy, Economy, Full Economy (three classes), and each class coming with three fare types (lite, essential, flex), there would be 9 combinations for costumers to choose. It will probably complicate things for 95% of the costumers IMO.

I can’t read some of your text. What’s with the font color change?
I had to copy and paste your text onto another place.

Based on your reply, if that’s the case, why do we have 9 different subfare classes in the first place? What’s the purpose for subdividing all the fare classes? Seems like it’s a type of confusopoly then if travelers are not informed.

percysmith Oct 17, 2025 1:56 am

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JordanWalker Oct 17, 2025 1:59 am

All that effort just to chase SL for what? Lounge access and a bowl of dandan noddles?
Over the increment of paying how much more for full-economy fares over the course of a yr?

Anyways, OP hope this chart clears it up for you as you mention you fly from JFK:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...23c6ed33cd.jpg

:D! Oct 17, 2025 2:04 am


Originally Posted by Worldtravelerr (Post 37377031)
Based on your reply, if that’s the case, why do we have 9 different subfare classes in the first place? What’s the purpose for subdividing all the fare classes? Seems like it’s a type of confusopoly then if travelers are not informed.

It's how different price levels are filed in the GDS.

It may be possible to force the next highest fare class online by using another browser to make some dummy bookings that fill up the lower buckets


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